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I see nothing wrong with it.
If two people love one another enough to commit to a long-term relationship, and they want to commit in Church, then do it.
The Church has no right to say homosexuals can’t be as loving as heteros. Jesus said nothing about homosexuals, one way or another.
He did say a few things about people who break the marriage vows, though. Something about the one without sin casting the first stone?
How much influence does the church have today when it comes to homosexuality?
Until 1967 homosexuality was still illegal in the UK, and although legalised at the age of 21 for England and Wales in that year, gay people in Scotland and Northern Ireland had to wait until 1980 and 1982 respectively before their sexuality became legal.
Surely the church has had more than enough time to accept things and move on as the rest of society has done?
I’m with you on this one scep…. I’m all in favour of people finding happiness whether its a male and female two males or two females… Life is too short to consider convention!
When we judge or criticize another relationship, it says nothing about that relationship it merely says something about ourselves. Im straight but not narrow… I cant see any problems or reasons why a relationship between two people cannot be recognised and formalised by the church.
Just my opinion of course…. my husband has very different thoughts… I wonder if females are more tolerant? will be interesting to see if others post their thoughts :D
on the chatsite, when I went (not sure whether I’ll go again – maybe or maybe not :? ), there seemed to be a very old-fashioned attitude to gay men.
I once shared a flat with an older gay guy and he had fascinating stories to tell about the period before homosexuality was leagalised.
In Hampstead Heath, the gays used to meet at midnight. He said he was very young, it was pitch-black, and he said hello to a guy who approached hi. The guy walked away – silence was part of the code.
He also said that the cops used to creep around, often lying flat on their bellies to catch the gays. They would suddenly turn on their torches, and all the gays would go running around in circles screaming and trying to pull their trousers up.
Sounds like a carry-on farce until you realise the penalties for getting caught
a lot of police traps were set.
I’m glad those days are gone. People are people, and we have a right to love who we want to love.
The thing with this is, if the church are pressured into giving into this and saying ok we will do it, why would you want to get married in church, when you know their feelings on it, is marriage really that important that you can’t just love and cherish someone without the piece of paper. Some would say perhaps they want to do it for religious reasons within the house of god and so forth, but the way it stands the church wouldn’t be giving their blessing but doing it cos pressured to do so. Gay couples can still worship god, love god and love each other without the need to get married in church.
So better they concentrate on their chosen faith, and each other than worry abt changing the churches views. Its the same with people feeling u have to attend church to have faith, you don’t you can worship god from anywhere you chose. It;s how you live your life and respect god, rather than visiting a church.@(f)politics? wrote:
The thing with this is, if the church are pressured into giving into this and saying ok we will do it, why would you want to get married in church, when you know their feelings on it, is marriage really that important that you can’t just love and cherish someone without the piece of paper. Some would say perhaps they want to do it for religious reasons within the house of god and so forth, but the way it stands the church wouldn’t be giving their blessing but doing it cos pressured to do so. Gay couples can still worship god, love god and love each other without the need to get married in church.
So better they concentrate on their chosen faith, and each other than worry abt changing the churches views. Its the same with people feeling u have to attend church to have faith, you don’t you can worship god from anywhere you chose. It;s how you live your life and respect god, rather than visiting a church.Maybe its more to do with acceptance Polly? Its a big thing for us all to feel part of society having the churches approval is part of that acceptance. We have moved on as a society thats true… its also true that our churches have declining congregations… maybe its time they moved at the same speed as the rest of us.
is acceptance really that important ? is it really going to change anything between the two people? isn’t it just doing what is seen as PC thing to do now ? Will they start allowing women into the freemasons next because its seen as PC? Why do we as a country insist on changing so much and forgetting and changing so much of what was once many parts of our culture, isn’t it just as important to maintain beliefs as they stand rather than changing them to suit just cos of societies pressure to do so?
Don’t get me wrong personally i don’t care if they do or don’t, but i don’t always like the changes as both a nation, religious sects or anything is dictated to by a certain few do gooders that want to hug the world at the expense of everything we once stood for.
Such a deep subject, and i know some of these changes are good, women getting the vote for example and they probably discussed this for many years before it came to fruition with many against the idea, where now we accept it as the norm, its what has shaped our culture and society to what it is now, not all good mind you lol, but when do we stop wanting to change the world to suit, who are we now, where will we end up ? This isn’t really about gay marriage just things in general, many many things.Well Im the same as you really pol…… gay marriage is not something I feel passionately about….. but sceptical asked the question and thinking about it I really can’t see a problem with full acceptance and a religious marriage in church if thats what a couple want.
I do have gay friends who I love dearly and I know they would be delighted to be able to marry in church so maybe thats influencing my opinion… also I think the church is out of touch especially with the younger generation… hence falling congregations.
Im not saying allowing gay marriage would improve church attendance but being out of step with modern society generally might be a contributing factor for the lack of interest.
Phew…. heavy subject for sure… tis sunday though :D :D :D
The Church is a bizaare institution. I doubt if there is such a thing as a true and devoted Christian who strictly adheres to all the bible teachings and the ten commandments.
This is all about equality. The Church’s stance against allowing gay marriage is denying gay people equality in front of God.
I’m not religious. I only go to Church for hatches, matches and dispatches. I didn’t get married in a Church as I thought it would be hypocritical. My aunt wasn’t allowed to marry in a Church as she wasn’t Christened!
To me the Church needs to modernise else it will eventually die out.
panda12 wrote:The Church is a bizaare institution. I doubt if there is such a thing as a true and devoted Christian who strictly adheres to all the bible teachings and the ten commandments.This is all about equality. The Church’s stance against allowing gay marriage is denying gay people equality in front of God.
I’m not religious. I only go to Church for hatches, matches and dispatches. I didn’t get married in a Church as I thought it would be hypocritical. My aunt wasn’t allowed to marry in a Church as she wasn’t Christened!
To me the Church needs to modernise else it will eventually die out.[/quote]
yes………..look at how many have been knocked down in the last decade and the ones that stand derelict awaiting their fate.
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