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    @emmalush wrote:

    Well they were taken to court, but tell me oh mighty one, do take part in this question, dont hide, what incitement did Nick or Mark create????

    Well Emma, as you must know I wasn’t there personally so I can’t directly answer your question. However, at their forthcoming trial no doubt evidence will be put before the Court as to what was said and how it broke the law on incitement.

    I expect that those who really care about these two will rush up there to listen to the evidence. As for me – I have a subsequent engagement.

    #247096

    Oh ho ho ho – I’ve just spotted this on a Reuters news flash

    @Reuters Press wrote:

    “……… Griffin, from mid-Wales, is charged with using words or behaviour intended to stir up racial hatred.

    Collett, from Leicestershire, faces four similar charges.

    Griffin, a Cambridge University graduate, and Collett were charged in April 2005 after the BBC screened a secretly filmed documentary “The Secret Agent” in 2004. The programme showed the pair giving anti-Muslim speeches to activists.

    Oh no – they were actually filmed stirring up hatred against Muslims. Dear oh dear that will never do.

    I wonder how they will talk their way out of this one???

    #247097

    I remember watching that documentary, but it was so long ago I really cant remember what was actually said. Surely there cant be any “new” evidence (from the hidden camera nutter)…. is this a re-trial or a new trial?

    #247098

    @forumhostpb wrote:

    Well Emma, as you must know I wasn’t there personally so I can’t directly answer your question. However, at their forthcoming trial no doubt evidence will be put before the Court as to what was said and how it broke the law on incitement.

    I expect that those who really care about these two will rush up there to listen to the evidence. As for me – I have a subsequent engagement.

    This trial is not specifically about Nick and Mark, but about whether you can punish someone for saying something that constitutes “incitement to racial hatred”, exactly what that is, only the crown prosecution and new labour know, when will we find out, we dont know yet.

    NOT ONE SINGLE individual present in that meeting caused racial hatred through Nick’s words. Therefore it cannot be proven he did wrong.

    What could be proven, is the BBC caused racial hatred by showing the documentary, therefore the BBC editor who gave permission to broadcast it would be up for seven years.

    Indeed, no one has caused any hatred through this whole saga that we know of.

    Do you understand some of the obsurdity of this trial now?

    #247099

    Didn’t Griffin say in relation to muslims something along the lines of “It’s better to do them before they do you”?

    #247100

    Im sure your looking for an argument of blame here, but where and to whom did he say this?

    #247101

    @emmalush wrote:

    This trial is not specifically about Nick and Mark, but about whether you can punish someone for saying something that constitutes “incitement to racial hatred”, exactly what that is, only the crown prosecution and new labour know, when will we find out, we dont know yet. This trial IS specifically about ‘Nick and Mark’ (Dumb and Dumber?). Who else has been charged? I think you’ll find that it’s a criminal charge they face and not a civil ‘class action suit’ so it is nothing to do with rights of Freedom of Speech.

    NOT ONE SINGLE individual present in that meeting caused racial hatred through Nick’s words. Therefore it cannot be proven he did wrong. Were you there? Have you seen the prosecution case? Are you on the jury?

    What could be proven, is the BBC caused racial hatred by showing the documentary, therefore the BBC editor who gave permission to broadcast it would be up for seven years. The BBC are to applauded for uncovering these scum and passing the footage to the police.

    Indeed, no one has caused any hatred through this whole saga that we know of. I can name 2 people, 3 if we include you.

    Do you understand some of the obsurdity of this trial now? If we can’t understand the reasoning behind any of your other thousands of posts why should we understand this one? Is this the new BNP website?

    #247102

    @bob2go wrote:

    This trial IS specifically about ‘Nick and Mark’ (Dumb and Dumber?). Who else has been charged? I think you’ll find that it’s a criminal charge they face and not a civil ‘class action suit’ so it is nothing to do with rights of Freedom of Speech.
    So your quite happy never to give your personal opinion about something you dont agree with, and if the government know of it, you can go to jail for seven years?

    Were you there? Have you seen the prosecution case? Are you on the jury?

    Has anyone caused racial hatred due to words spoken by Nick or Mark?

    The BBC are to applauded for uncovering these scum and passing the footage to the police.
    You mean encouraging incitement to racial hatred :wink:

    I can name 2 people, 3 if we include you.

    You dont have proof you idiot.

    Do you understand some of the obsurdity of this trial now? If we can’t understand the reasoning behind any of your other thousands of posts why should we understand this one? Is this the new BNP website?

    Its a website that adores freedom of speech, the owner(s) should be congratulated for allowing you the chance.
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    #247103

    @emmalush wrote:

    Were you there? Have you seen the prosecution case? Are you on the jury?

    Has anyone caused racial hatred due to words spoken by Nick or Mark?

    The BBC are to applauded for uncovering these scum and passing the footage to the police.
    You mean encouraging incitement to racial hatred :wink:

    So, if the BBC had taped a conversation between two muslim leaders talking about inciting muslims to rise up and start bombing people and they passed this to the police, you would be standing on the courtroom steps with placards campaigning for the case to be dropped and the BBC to be charged with incitement to cause racial hatred? GET A LIFE YOU SAD FUC/K!!

    #247104

    =D>

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