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27 July, 2006 at 10:00 am #231968
Yes Ruby you gave your opnion as did everyone else, but you came back after I gave mine, which is why I began to question you. You have to use personal remarks towards me so dont make out I have a vendeter against you. You seem to have an inability to have an intelligent debate about anything, if someone questions you, you fall apart. Im not sure who has self hatred but you know projection is a defense mechanism!!!!
27 July, 2006 at 10:27 am #231969You come from a misplaced idea that Foxes need to be controlled. I don’t agree.
Killing foxes has no lasting results. Foxes are territorial animals – if one fox is killed another soon moves into its place from a surrounding area. Foxes also control their own population.
I do not think that Foxes need to be controlled, therefore I have no reason to put forward an alternative to Fox Hunting.[/color][/quote]I agree why should we determine which animals should live or die, why should we think that we are the supperior being and need to control everything. Unfortunately we live in a so called civilised society whereby our food is mass produced and for that reason certain wildlife need to be culled, according to farmers. Badgers are a big issue lately as they allegedly carry TB and pass it to cattle. I disagree that foxes would be more tempted by rats or rabbits, foxes will take anything if its an easy meal, my chickens for one thing. I dont mind too much though, since its probably 10 a year and it could be worse I suppose, we choose not to cull foxes round us, the dogs tend to keep them at bay, the foxes just steer clear, unless we go out thats when they strike. We just live with them. My argument is that anti fox hunting people mostly dont have the foxes interests at heart they use them as an excuse for prejudice against so called ‘toffs’. Our food chain is a right mess and is more cruel than most could imagine, but thats ok because we dont see it we see what the government want us to see. If fox hunting went on behind closed doors nobody apart from genuine animal lovers would give a damn.
27 July, 2006 at 10:29 am #231970@rubyred wrote:
I dont hate me,,i lurrrrve ME..in fact if I was chocolate id eat myself :)
/with a fine chianti….;)
Good for you it’d have to be Rioja for me though!!
27 July, 2006 at 10:39 am #23197127 July, 2006 at 4:19 pm #231972You come from a misplaced idea that Foxes need to be controlled. I don’t agree.
Killing foxes has no lasting results. Foxes are territorial animals – if one fox is killed another soon moves into its place from a surrounding area. Foxes also control their own population.
I do not think that Foxes need to be controlled, therefore I have no reason to put forward an alternative to Fox Hunting.
I agree why should we determine which animals should live or die, why should we think that we are the supperior being and need to control everything. Unfortunately we live in a so called civilised society whereby our food is mass produced and for that reason certain wildlife need to be culled, according to farmers. Badgers are a big issue lately as they allegedly carry TB and pass it to cattle. I disagree that foxes would be more tempted by rats or rabbits, foxes will take anything if its an easy meal, my chickens for one thing. I dont mind too much though, since its probably 10 a year and it could be worse I suppose, we choose not to cull foxes round us, the dogs tend to keep them at bay, the foxes just steer clear, unless we go out thats when they strike. We just live with them. My argument is that anti fox hunting people mostly dont have the foxes interests at heart they use them as an excuse for prejudice against so called ‘toffs’. Our food chain is a right mess and is more cruel than most could imagine, but thats ok because we dont see it we see what the government want us to see. If fox hunting went on behind closed doors nobody apart from genuine animal lovers would give a damn.
Glad you agree.
My interest is with the Fox however, which has a right to survive just as much as we do, I do not have the “Townie” ideology. While I have no problem with “toffs” as you call them, I abhor their excuses to hunt and kill.
As far as other livestock is concerned, Cows, Pigs, Sheep etc.. we kill them for food, that cannot be said about a Fox.
I did not say that Foxes preferred Rats and Rabbits to Chickens or Lamb, just that as Farms are better protected ie: your Dogs… then the alternatives are ample.
27 July, 2006 at 5:36 pm #231973@tiggy wrote:
You come from a misplaced idea that Foxes need to be controlled. I don’t agree.
Killing foxes has no lasting results. Foxes are territorial animals – if one fox is killed another soon moves into its place from a surrounding area. Foxes also control their own population.
I do not think that Foxes need to be controlled, therefore I have no reason to put forward an alternative to Fox Hunting.
I agree why should we determine which animals should live or die, why should we think that we are the supperior being and need to control everything. Unfortunately we live in a so called civilised society whereby our food is mass produced and for that reason certain wildlife need to be culled, according to farmers. Badgers are a big issue lately as they allegedly carry TB and pass it to cattle. I disagree that foxes would be more tempted by rats or rabbits, foxes will take anything if its an easy meal, my chickens for one thing. I dont mind too much though, since its probably 10 a year and it could be worse I suppose, we choose not to cull foxes round us, the dogs tend to keep them at bay, the foxes just steer clear, unless we go out thats when they strike. We just live with them. My argument is that anti fox hunting people mostly dont have the foxes interests at heart they use them as an excuse for prejudice against so called ‘toffs’. Our food chain is a right mess and is more cruel than most could imagine, but thats ok because we dont see it we see what the government want us to see. If fox hunting went on behind closed doors nobody apart from genuine animal lovers would give a damn.
Glad you agree.
My interest is with the Fox however, which has a right to survive just as much as we do, I do not have the “Townie” ideology. While I have no problem with “toffs” as you call them, I abhor their excuses to hunt and kill.
As far as other livestock is concerned, Cows, Pigs, Sheep etc.. we kill them for food, that cannot be said about a Fox.
No I dont think everyone who is against hunting has the townie ideology, that I understand, but again as I stated before and something which everyone has bypassed is the animal welfare within our food chain is more babaric than hunting. Do the animals in question have as much right to survive as us? Or not because we have selectively bred them?
27 July, 2006 at 9:28 pm #231974@holisticjo wrote:
@tiggy wrote:
You come from a misplaced idea that Foxes need to be controlled. I don’t agree.
Killing foxes has no lasting results. Foxes are territorial animals – if one fox is killed another soon moves into its place from a surrounding area. Foxes also control their own population.
I do not think that Foxes need to be controlled, therefore I have no reason to put forward an alternative to Fox Hunting.
I agree why should we determine which animals should live or die, why should we think that we are the supperior being and need to control everything. Unfortunately we live in a so called civilised society whereby our food is mass produced and for that reason certain wildlife need to be culled, according to farmers. Badgers are a big issue lately as they allegedly carry TB and pass it to cattle. I disagree that foxes would be more tempted by rats or rabbits, foxes will take anything if its an easy meal, my chickens for one thing. I dont mind too much though, since its probably 10 a year and it could be worse I suppose, we choose not to cull foxes round us, the dogs tend to keep them at bay, the foxes just steer clear, unless we go out thats when they strike. We just live with them. My argument is that anti fox hunting people mostly dont have the foxes interests at heart they use them as an excuse for prejudice against so called ‘toffs’. Our food chain is a right mess and is more cruel than most could imagine, but thats ok because we dont see it we see what the government want us to see. If fox hunting went on behind closed doors nobody apart from genuine animal lovers would give a damn.
Glad you agree.
My interest is with the Fox however, which has a right to survive just as much as we do, I do not have the “Townie” ideology. While I have no problem with “toffs” as you call them, I abhor their excuses to hunt and kill.
As far as other livestock is concerned, Cows, Pigs, Sheep etc.. we kill them for food, that cannot be said about a Fox.
No I dont think everyone who is against hunting has the townie ideology, that I understand, but again as I stated before and something which everyone has bypassed is the animal welfare within our food chain is more babaric than hunting. Do the animals in question have as much right to survive as us? Or not because we have selectively bred them?
The question of barbarity regarding the keeping and slaughter of animals for our consumption wasn’t the question I addressed, rather do I agree with Fox Hunting or not.
I agree with keeping cattle etc for consumption as this meets a basic need, ie: Nutrition
27 July, 2006 at 10:43 pm #231975slaughter for food is a completey different topic than do we agree/disagree with fox hunting…
there is and should not be any comparison between the two!! :x
27 July, 2006 at 11:40 pm #231976@sharongooner wrote:
slaughter for food is a completley different topic than do we agree/disagree with fox hunting…
there is and should not be any comparison between the two!! :x
I agree.
28 July, 2006 at 7:55 am #231977@tiggy wrote:
@sharongooner wrote:
slaughter for food is a completley different topic than do we agree/disagree with fox hunting…
there is and should not be any comparison between the two!! :x
I agree.
What’s the difference – they are killed , they are killed
What does it matter what the feck happens to them after they are dead
So you are saying – if we ate foxes – then that’s okay then ????
If you really want to make a difference – campaign against the killing of some animals and mammals that are facing extinction – like the rhino or whales
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