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It’s not them that’s paid for the neglect though, they keep portraying themselves as the victims here but the real victim is Madeleine. It’s really time they stopped playing the media to defend themselves and what they’ve gone through and began playing the media to keep the focus on Madeleine and her abductor. That’s what other parents of abducted children have done.
I chose not to have kids because I wasn’t prepared to make the necessary self sacrifices in order to ensure my kids would have a proper upbringing.
I knew I was never going to be a great parent so I didn’t bother with kids.
The McCanns had a choice too and they chose to have three children.
So Teapot, it’s not ok to say:
OK they made a mistake…
They made a fecking big mistake because they are selfish and put their own interests before those of their three children.
The McCanns should be behind bars – no use saying they have been punished because of their suffering.
I fear their daughets’s suffering has been far greater than what those two clowns will ever know.
No-one is denying that Panda, but its happened and all this ranting about what bad parents they are is not helpful in the least. Just because you feel strongly about it does not mean its helpful to endlessly go on about it.
A little girl was abducted.. its her we should focus on and the crime. The parents should be secondary to that, its unfortunate that some people seem to have got that the wrong way around.
@mrs_teapot wrote:
No-one is denying that Panda, but its happened and all this ranting about what bad parents they are is not helpful in the least. Just because you feel strongly about it does not mean its helpful to endlessly go on about it.
A little girl was abducted.. its her we should focus on and the crime. The parents should be secondary to that, its unfortunate that some people seem to have got that the wrong way around.
LOL
You harped on about it first and sympathised with these criminals by admitting your own failings as a parent.Now the McCanns want the investigation re – opened.
Our esteemed Prime Minister David Cameron:
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/863263-david-cameron-didnt-order-met-police-to-review-madeleine-mccann-caseis now jumping on the bandwagon in order to boost his own popularity and pressurising The Met to review all the evidence at a great cost to the tax payer at a time when David Cameron is ordering police services to reduce their costs.
If the McCanns want the investigation re – opened then let them pay for it from all the money they get with their fundraising, constant interviews and their salaries as a surgeon and a doctor.
And on top of it all, I don’t think this was a clear case of abduction. If it was a paedophile, why not take the other daughter too?
A child snatching ring that kidnapped kids to order so they could be sold would have plotted to take all three McCann children – they had the opportunity.
Who is to say Madeline just didn’t just wake up, panic to find her parents not there and wander off in search of them? Wander off to meet a grisly end in the sea?
Also, the McCanns, with their neglect were lucky they had two children to come back to – a fire could have easily wiped all three out.
@panda12 wrote:
@mrs_teapot wrote:
No-one is denying that Panda, but its happened and all this ranting about what bad parents they are is not helpful in the least. Just because you feel strongly about it does not mean its helpful to endlessly go on about it.
A little girl was abducted.. its her we should focus on and the crime. The parents should be secondary to that, its unfortunate that some people seem to have got that the wrong way around.
LOL
You harped on about it first and sympathised with these criminals by admitting your own failings as a parent.Now the McCanns want the investigation re – opened.
Our esteemed Prime Minister David Cameron:
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/863263-david-cameron-didnt-order-met-police-to-review-madeleine-mccann-caseis now jumping on the bandwagon in order to boost his own popularity and pressurising The Met to review all the evidence at a great cost to the tax payer at a time when David Cameron is ordering police services to reduce their costs.
If the McCanns want the investigation re – opened then let them pay for it from all the money they get with their fundraising, constant interviews and their salaries as a surgeon and a doctor.
And on top of it all, I don’t think this was a clear case of abduction. If it was a paedophile, why not take the other daughter too?
A child snatching ring that kidnapped kids to order so they could be sold would have plotted to take all three McCann children – they had the opportunity.
Who is to say Madeline just didn’t just wake up, panic to find her parents not there and wander off in search of them? Wander off to meet a grisly end in the sea?
Also, the McCanns, with their neglect were lucky they had two children to come back to – a fire could have easily wiped all three out.
You really are a silly person Panda… I know exactly what you are doing… and guess what it wont work. I am confident in my parenting skills… I have no more to say to you.
“But there is another view of the world out there and other eyes to see it and that’s where this is goin’. It has done brought me to a place in my life I would not of thought I’d of come to. Somewhere out there is a true and living prophet of destruction and I don’t want to confront him. I know he’s real. I have seen his work. I walked in front of those eyes once. I won’t do it again.”
Always a huge fan of Cormac Mc Carthy, these words from the beginning of his novel No Country For Old Men never resonated as powerful for me as they did last night, as I watched Kate and Gerry McCann give a live interview on Irish TV.
Looking at Mrs McCann’s wasted figure – her haggard, pained face – her trembling, broken voice – all manifestations of a terrorised, heavy burdened soul, I did wonder how anyone could be so cruel as to ultimately judge these flawed, but devastated and decent people.
I think amidst the clamour, the circus, the frenzied blame game that modern media saturation shovels out, that the true tragedy of this case was lost. And I mean tragedy in it’s most fundamental state. Tragedy as the inevitable consequence of human frailty and error combining with the most diabolical set of outward circumstances.It makes one think, and think deeply on the very nature of “bad things”, and who or what brings about all the links in the chain to cause them, and just like Sheriff Bell in McCarthy’s novel, struggle to comprehend the enormity of evil in this world.
Therefore, although it is probably understandable to a degree to be absolute in condemnation, to almost scapegoat the horror, as some of the more.. erm “black and white” contributors have been here. It is (and I hope when souls are searched this is at least privately accepted) essentially wrong to demonise this couple.There is another quote, from a Christy Moore song.. “Only the very safe, can talk about wrong and right”.
We can all say our “should haves / could haves / would haves”, but we weren’t there. Nor are we there now, in that forever darkened place the McCann’s are.
I suggest we hold our children close and thank God for that.@Sgt Pepper wrote:
“But there is another view of the world out there and other eyes to see it and that’s where this is goin’. It has done brought me to a place in my life I would not of thought I’d of come to. Somewhere out there is a true and living prophet of destruction and I don’t want to confront him. I know he’s real. I have seen his work. I walked in front of those eyes once. I won’t do it again.”
Always a huge fan of Cormac Mc Carthy, these words from the beginning of his novel No Country For Old Men never resonated as powerful for me as they did last night, as I watched Kate and Gerry McCann give a live interview on Irish TV.
Looking at Mrs McCann’s wasted figure – her haggard, pained face – her trembling, broken voice – all manifestations of a terrorised, heavy burdened soul, I did wonder how anyone could be so cruel as to ultimately judge these flawed, but devastated and decent people.
I think amidst the clamour, the circus, the frenzied blame game that modern media saturation shovels out, that the true tragedy of this case was lost. And I mean tragedy in it’s most fundamental state. Tragedy as the inevitable consequence of human frailty and error combining with the most diabolical set of outward circumstances.It makes one think, and think deeply on the very nature of “bad things”, and who or what brings about all the links in the chain to cause them, and just like Sheriff Bell in McCarthy’s novel, struggle to comprehend the enormity of evil in this world.
Therefore, although it is probably understandable to a degree to be absolute in condemnation, to almost scapegoat the horror, as some of the more.. erm “black and white” contributors have been here. It is (and I hope when souls are searched this is at least privately accepted) essentially wrong to demonise this couple.There is another quote, from a Christy Moore song.. “Only the very safe, can talk about wrong and right”.
We can all say our “should haves / could haves / would haves”, but we weren’t there. Nor are we there now, in that forever darkened place the McCann’s are.
I suggest we hold our children close and thank God for that.Thank you Sgt…said so eloquently, I agree totally
Several times I have said that I don’t understand why the McCanns are so vilified compared to other parents of abducted children.
Sarah Payne – parents and grandparents sat in a pub beer garden while the children played in fields out of sight. Sarah abducted, the other children left behind. Mother went on to write a book. Mother seen as almost saintly.
The McCanns – parents sat in a tapas bar while the children slept in their apartment. Madeleine abducted, the other children left behind. Mother went on to write a book. Parents vilified.
Both parents have lost a child, whatever the circumstances that led to that; the pain and anguish can not be imagined by anyone who hasn’t been there themselves. If you are a parent, it is highly likely that at some point you left your child unattended at some point, even if it was just to chat on the phone, and in that time your child hurt themselves. Remember the guilt and remorse you felt? Now take that and multiply it, then imagine that your child isn’t there for you to soothe and apologise to. Can you imagine how that must feel? I can’t.
And now the Madeleine McCann case is to be revisited by Met police. Why? Don’t get me wrong, I think all efforts to find Maddie should be made and no stone left unturned, but what about the other abducted children where this should also be done? Ben Needham? and so many others that the media barely mentions them. Why weren’t their cases revisited? An interesting article here. Is it really just down to the power of the media? In which case all credit to the McCanns for keeping the media interested and the pressure on the powers that be to ensure the search goes on, but what a sad indictment for any thoughts of equality and justice and fair play for all. Any sensible thinking person knows that the media is unequal in its reporting and that Government takes what the media reports into account, but to think that the media has such sway at the highest levels…well, enough said.
And if they do find Maddie and she’s alive and well and happy in a new life – what then?
I have looked at this a little closer and came across this site. This Link will take you to a translation of a book written by the then head of the investigation Dr. Gonçalo Amaral on the Portuguese side.Having read this, I am in doubt about the ‘innocence’ of the MacCann family. According to this book, the investigation appears to have suffered a political interference. When we consider the facts as put by Dr Amaral, it shows a side to the investigation that most people will not be aware of. I cannot decide myself what to make of this but call into question the attitude and action or inaction of the British in the investigation, aslo the input by Gordon Brown with this.
His book has been discredited by people who worked alongside him on the investigation, many saying that his recollection of events is different in key factors to their recollection and how their paperwork from the time contradicts his. What is clear from the book though is how inadequate the investigation was in the early stages, how out of their depth the police were, something he admits himself.
Someone I know who has a far more analytical mind than I has read all the available literature on the subject, including Amaral’s book and Kate Maccanns book. Apparently there are common areas of consistency, but both books have major inconsistencies and holes and raise far more questions that they answer.
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