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12 May, 2011 at 2:19 am #467783
@kent f OBE wrote:
I would not call what the Macanns did a mistake! They deliberately left all their children alone, how is that a mistake? It was neglect. The bar was across the road off the resort wasn’t it? So what if they could slightly see the corner of it? Someone could have gone in killed the children and they wouldn’t have been able to see inside. That is fact. Wether I am for or against or not. I am however sympathetic to the parents and feel for their loss and do not think they had anything to do with it, apart from making it easier for an abduction.
I remember during my last pregnancy I suffered from depression, which also continued after he was born. There were a few times when I needed to nip out and do things, and was tempted to leave him whilst he slept as I knew I would be only a few minutes. But I never did. Even in my unstable mental state I knew it was wrong. There is never an excuse. It is also illegal. It may not be in Spain, but does that mean we compromise out children?
If Kate had been a single mother on benefits and this had happened. She would probably have been hung drawn and quartered by the press and police here and lost any other children in her care.Too true.
I really feel sorry for both parents, but a single mother on benefits living in a housing association property would have come close to losing her other kids.
What’s worse for the McCann’s is that they know they did the wrong thing and they can’t just forget their mistake or put it right. They will always suffer for what they did. And for that, on top of losing their daughter, I do feel genuinely sory for them.
12 May, 2011 at 9:41 am #467784Now here’s an interesting way of looking at the question of leaving your children.
What price would you put on your children? £1,000? £5,000? £500,000? £1,000,000? Stupid question right? They’re priceless right? Of course they are.
So here’s another question…would you leave £5,000 on the bed of your apartment when you went out for dinner?
12 May, 2011 at 9:55 am #467785Gosh I hate all this holier than thou stuff as far as the McCanns are concerned, OK they made a mistake… but surely the focus should be on the bast..ard who took their little girl… and where she might be.. They made a mistake… get over it… focus on the real evil in all this.
12 May, 2011 at 9:58 am #467786Sarah Payne, 8 years old, playing in a cornfield on a summer’s day at 6pm with her brothers and sisters while their parents and grandparents sat in a local pub garden enjoying a drink. We all know she was abducted and murdered. Her mother wrote books and appeared in the media regularly.
Both sets of parents made decisions that resulted in tragic consequences. The major difference is that Sarah’s body was found and her murderer convicted.
Sarah Payne (the mother) had everyone’s sympathy throughout, the McCanns are vilified. I wonder whether that will change if Maddie is found.
12 May, 2011 at 10:10 am #467787Mrs T the focus is on them because Kate McCann has written a book about them and how it affected their family and how they dealt with it. If she hadn’t written the book we probably wouldn’t be discussing it.
Personally I really don’t understand why they are being so pilloried, vilified, when others who have done similar are treated with sympathy and understanding. If you saw just a third of what is being said on the other forum I use, the judgments and condemnation and sheer hatred, you’d be mortified.
Having said that, I don’t understand how parents can leave children so young on their own in a strange place, but then I’m not a parent. I only know that my parents would never have dreamt of doing such a thing. However the McCanns made an error of judgement and they are paying the price with the loss of their daughter. That should be sufficient punishment for them, yet that’s compounded by the vilification and hatred of a large proportion of the nation, whilst other countries just wish they’d go away. The aim of the book is said to be to raise funds for further investigations and to keep Maddie in the public eye, but I’m afraid all it’s done is put the McCanns back in the public eye and lined them as a target for even more judgement whilst the abductor walks free.
12 May, 2011 at 1:11 pm #467788To an extent I can understand the attitude of the public towards the parents, it’s unthinkable that in this day and age any child so young would be left alone for any period of time, it’s sad, but we do have to bear in mind there are so many sick individuals at large in the world today who grab any opportunity available. I DO NOT however agree that Maddie’s parents deserve what has happened to them or their child.
Obviously as this case has proved, checking back every half an hour isn’t good enough. These days your child isn’t safe playing outside their own front door, a sad but true fact.
It has also been recorded that most child abductors will watch the child and family to gain knowledge of their daily routine – leaving me to wonder did Maddie’s abductor watch her for some length of time?
And the powers that be, wonder why parents are in uproar over finding how many paedophiles are placed in houses amongst their estates, but we are not allowed to learn who they are in order to protect our children as best we can
My thoughts remain with the family of this little girl
I Truely hope they find her safe and well but sadly i think too much time has past for this to be possible i prey im proved wrong12 May, 2011 at 1:54 pm #467789its easy to point the finger and say your wrong but to be in that suituation might be different.
I dont have kids BUT if i did then YES id get a babysitter just my parents did when we went away, or they’d stay with us to take care of their responsiblity.
Also noone has meantioned what was in question 4 years ago – WHY DID THEY DRUG HER BEFORE GOING OUT – that still bothers me.
Also what happened to “maddies blood found in the boot of the McCanns hired car???Its up to the police to find the girl and i still dont see how writing a book on the events will help surely if someone seen a child being taken they’d say something – i would for deffo. I hope the family get some sort of closure, still not sure if shes better off alive or dead, if i had kids and they were taken by peados, christ knows what goes through the kids heads how much that would feck them up for life.
Yet it still feels like Kate and Gerry are trying to justify leaving children untended – as i said on different site if they were on social welfare they would be deemed the worst parents in history, which leaves me feeling that Kate is writing this to get sympathy as she can just appeal on TV for wittness to come forward without bearing her soul as any person or parent would feel for Maddie and what the horrors she is going or has been through.
12 May, 2011 at 2:51 pm #467790Well I have every sympathy for the parents as I have said Mrs T. I hope they find Maddie alive, I just cannot get it into my head as a mother, how they could just leave 3 kids that young on their own. I explained my mental state after my son was born but ultimately I never compromised his safety. The Macanns were out with a large group of friends. Didn’t any one of them even say how could you leave the kids?
I have a very good friend who used to leave her sleeping daughter alone and pop to town. She never told me on loads of occasions she used to do it untl one day she did. I said to her that I would report her to social services if she ever did it again. We are stil friends 20 yrs later. Once you know something is wrong you should do the right thing.12 May, 2011 at 6:28 pm #467791@mrs_teapot wrote:
I dont think for one minute they are neglectful parents, I think when you are on holiday you relax….and maybe they did things there they would not consider at home. I think if people are truthful many will have done the same thing….
Totally disagree with you.
If you choose to have kids you have a moral and legal obligation to make sure they are safe 24/7/365 and thankfully, the vast majority of parents take those responsibilities seriously.
No sane parent leaves their kids in a room whilst they dine and wine themselves 50 – 100 yards away – the McCanns were totally irresponsible and are unfit to be parents.
Sure, you can be in the same house as your kids but in a different room but not in a totally different location altogether where they are out of sight and sound.
12 May, 2011 at 7:07 pm #467792Well having looked at the map of exactly where the Tapas bar is situated I have to agree it was irresponsible to leave the children as they did… however, I do think this has turned into a witch hunt. They have more than paid for their neglect.. I still think people should get over it and focus on the crime, and the perpetrator.
By the way I would not condone people leaving their children in that situation… but when my children were younger I have used the hotel listening service when on holiday… and I might add there were other parents in the same situation doing exactly the same thing.
Not the same situation I agree…. but does that make me a bad parent…. I think not, doubtless though there are some people who think it does.
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