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14 July, 2008 at 11:07 pm #354329
Damn it too late
14 July, 2008 at 11:10 pm #354330The Germans very kindly sent over clothing etc but the mens were rather large waisted
14 July, 2008 at 11:56 pm #354331@hisnibbs wrote:
There was a discussion on the radio on whether Maggie Thatcher should get a state funeral.
A guy from South Wales rang saying he hated her for causing the pits to close, then admitted he was glad he and others didn’t have to work down them anymore, he was still coughing up black stuff months later.
Left to the Unions he would still be there, or sick.Is anyone here from Notts, Yorks or other former mining areas?
Have you heard yourself or your parents contradict themselves?
In today’s benefit culture I reckon thousands would be on sickness benefit now anyway, the pits would probably be full of East Europeans.
I am a miners daughter, my dad was glad to be out of the pits to tell you the ‘onest.
He was paid well but the job was dangerous.
What saddens me about losing the mines is losing the true working class spirit within those communities.
15 July, 2008 at 1:03 am #354332@esmeralda wrote:
As I recall, her ally was that Canadian barstard Ian McGregor! :twisted:
How come I have never heard of him? Checked my list of famous and infamous Canadians..he doesn’t appear! Are they keeping this quiet?
15 July, 2008 at 12:47 pm #354333@lil fek wrote:
@esmeralda wrote:
As I recall, her ally was that Canadian barstard Ian McGregor! :twisted:
How come I have never heard of him? Checked my list of famous and infamous Canadians..he doesn’t appear! Are they keeping this quiet?
Oh sod it, I was in denial. The evil sh.it was born in Sc…Scot…..bugger it..the land of my birth and I’m so deeply affronted that I thought I’d give him over to you Canucks. He certainly spent most of his life with yas.
Feck, you’re toooo pendantic..allow a girl some artistic licence will ya?
AnyroadstoVancouver, read about the auld scunner HERE15 July, 2008 at 1:01 pm #354334£16 a week a £10 bag of groceries delivered once a month free family dinners Mons Weds and Fri at the labour club £25 meat voucher xmas but a community )thats now pretty much fragmented)
Theres 300 yrs worth of coal under this country the oil and gas will run out alternative energy just wont cut it leaves nuclear or coal How much will it cost to re-mine15 July, 2008 at 4:39 pm #354335Arthur Scargill was right every word it was his style that was wrong We shouldnt have gone on strike then and we certainly shouldnt have gone back
Scargill was a megalomaniac crypto-communist. He declared himself life-president of the NUM. There was something a bit Mugabesque about him.
15 July, 2008 at 4:40 pm #354336But right every word
15 July, 2008 at 5:27 pm #354337What Britain needs is MORE like Arthur, like Mick McGahey, like Jimmy Reid. Proper Socialists and not this shower of Nu-Labour tossers, or Nu- but-really-just-the-samebunch-of-fascist-Tory-Party-Mutha-Fu.ckers.
“The Red Flag” by Jim ConnellThe lyrics . . .
The people’s flag is deepest red,
It shrouded oft our martyred dead,
And ere their limbs grew stiff and cold,
Their hearts blood dyed its every fold.Then raise the scarlet standard high. (chorus)
Within its shade we’ll live and die,
Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer,
We’ll keep the red flag flying here.Look round, the Frenchman loves its blaze,
The sturdy German chants its praise,
In Moscow’s vaults its hymns are sung
Chicago swells the surging throng.It waved above our infant might,
When all ahead seemed dark as night;
It witnessed many a deed and vow,
We must not change its colour now.It well recalls the triumphs past,
It gives the hope of peace at last;
The banner bright, the symbol plain,
Of human right and human gain.It suits today the weak and base,
Whose minds are fixed on pelf and place
To cringe before the rich man’s frown,
And haul the sacred emblem down.With heads uncovered swear we all
To bear it onward till we fall;
Come dungeons dark or gallows grim,
This song shall be our parting hymn.Keep the faith!
15 July, 2008 at 6:14 pm #354338Why send men to work shifts in squalid and dangerous conditions underground when a combination of renewable energy resources and increased energy efficiency could meet most of our needs. A Severn barrage alone could provide 7% of all our electricity, another one across Morecambe Bay probably a similar amount. The planned major offshore windfarms could make a sufficient contribution – the wind is usually blowing somewhere!
Then there are free-standing tidal flow turbines and generators that use wave power (like the Pelamis device). These could be placed within offshore windfarms, so they would not use up extra sea space. There is also a lot of scope for small scale hydro-electric river-flow turbines.Then there is solar energy. Photovoltaic roof panels to generate electricity, or solar-thermal panels to heat water. Home-scale wind turbines are often disappointing. But scientists are working on supercapacitors that can store energy more efficently than battereries. Perhaps these would be able to store surplus energy developed by wind power at night.
OK, so men will have to work in dangerous conditions installing and maintaining offshore windfarms – maybe, but nothing’s perfect.
If we increase coal production, what do we do with the coal? Burn it on fires (smoke), coal-fired power stations? Steam locomotives (very inefficient) or process coal to make roadfuel?
There might be more scope for some coal-fired power stations if adequate emission control technology is fitted – but no great return to the sooty, smoggy, chuffy, bronchitic, grimy coal age!
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