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14 July, 2008 at 10:09 am #10811
There was a discussion on the radio on whether Maggie Thatcher should get a state funeral.
A guy from South Wales rang saying he hated her for causing the pits to close, then admitted he was glad he and others didn’t have to work down them anymore, he was still coughing up black stuff months later.
Left to the Unions he would still be there, or sick.Is anyone here from Notts, Yorks or other former mining areas?
Have you heard yourself or your parents contradict themselves?
In today’s benefit culture I reckon thousands would be on sickness benefit now anyway, the pits would probably be full of East Europeans.
14 July, 2008 at 10:49 am #354300This poses something of a dichotomy, HN. Yes, life down the pits was bloody hard and fraught with danger, but it was a way of life for whole communities, a good and sustaining way of life with proud men able to put food on the table for their families.
Thatcher didn’t set about destroying the long-held traditions and practices for the good of anyone’s health – christ – she decimated the entire mining industry in her determination to bring down the Unions and to show who could pi.ss highest up the wall.
I was one of the many, active at the time in supporting the CP in their struggle against that murderous whore and everything she stood for. We held numerous benefits to raise funds for the miners and picketed the scabs like Yuill and Dodds, and slapped bandages on bloody heads, broken on the end of police truncheons..
..Finally, we wept like babies at the passing of an age.
The Thatcher apologists amongst you, will forgive the thousands like myself – who – when the final clods of earth are shovelled onto her coffin, will line up to dance a merry jig on her grave.14 July, 2008 at 11:23 am #354301I’d go back down tomorrow to be honest but it aint gonna happen
14 July, 2008 at 1:48 pm #354302Margaret Thatcher had an ally in the destruction of our coal industry, remember…..
called Arthur Scargill. He certainly won’t get a state funeral, except perhaps in North Korea.14 July, 2008 at 1:55 pm #354303@bassingbourne55 wrote:
Margaret Thatcher had an ally in the destruction of our coal industry, remember…..
called Arthur Scargill. He certainly won’t get a state funeral, except perhaps in North Korea.As I recall, her ally was that Canadian barstard Ian McGregor! :twisted:
14 July, 2008 at 2:05 pm #354304Arthur Scargill was right every word it was his style that was wrong We shouldnt have gone on strike then and we certainly shouldnt have gone back
14 July, 2008 at 2:07 pm #354305Ive only really learnt what I know about the mining from documentaries and people’s opinions. She really did f/uck people/communities over big time, and you still hear those staunch conservative/maggie fans saying what a great strong iron lady she was.
Her heart must have been made of stone.
14 July, 2008 at 5:39 pm #354306More police than pickets she wanted the strike she’d planned for it Scargill didnt actually want it then
14 July, 2008 at 5:40 pm #354307aint all womens hearts made of stone :lol: She stood by what she belived in and it was great when she out her scarf over the BA tail fin when they got rid of the union flag and changed it to some ethnic design. Apart from that she was evil, she screwed the miners, the GLC in london(even though ken was a twat and still is) and destroyed the engineering industry in this country. I also when through the school system at the time she was in power and she screwed that as well.
14 July, 2008 at 9:32 pm #354308Hmmm…one mans poison is another mans.. etc
Taken from a child of the 70’s who remembers my proud working class parents despair at the dead lying unburied, rubbish filling our streets, power cuts, wild cat strikes etc etc etc and finding someone who was prepared to stand up to a bullying left wing socialist agenda which held an entire country to ransom, I think she did a job she set out to do and did it very well- she turned Britain into a country worth investing in.
This country was brought kicking and screaming into the 20th century during the 80’s and it didnt like it one bit (nor does it now)
I do not deny the devastation the mining communities of South Wales, South Yorkshire, North Notts etc suffered, the shipbuilders of the Clyde, The Tyne and the Mersey, etc etc
But as the cotton industry collpased 100 years ago- not all the evil in the world is the fault of one person
She was a very divisive PM who did indeed divide families but ironically she was the instigator of the breakdown of the class system- without Thatcher, you wouldnt have had Blair- vast swathes of socially engineered brain washed communities suddenly started thinking for themselves instead of voting how their father, gradfather, greatgrandfather etc had
State funeral? Probably not but she was the right person, at the right time in the right job
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