For those who haven'ts een it..

You’d know all about personal abuse Sceptical because your post history is littered with it. You a rude, arrogant, dismissive pig. A bully and I don’t like bullies.

You stick to bullying people like Hugs, mob handed, who are too damn decent to fight back. That is all you are good for you and your board cronies.

Christian you claim? Don’t make me laugh.

You misquoted me because you are untrustworthy and dishonest.

sceptical guy wrote:

Ge wrote:

sceptical guy wrote:

I think it’s a paranoid view which relies too much on everything being the product of a conspiracy by ‘the Establishment’, and economic policy as being a tool of nefrious design.

There is nothing paranoid in the fact that the establishment at local and national level branded the victims of male grooming gangs in Northern Mill Towns as feckless and promiscous, that is on record. There is nothing paranoid about the fact it has been covered up at national level. There is nothing paranoid about cuts to public services and welfare that disproportionately target those communities and that those same communities have been ignored by the establishment for 35 years. There is nothing paranoid about the fact that working class communities are battling to access public services and decent housing and jobs and are in direct competition with economic migrants in a large number of areas. I would argue that the liberal middle class, the establishment, people just like you, keep calling everyone else “paranoid” while point blank refusing to achowledge or accept any responsibilty themselves. Hence why the grooming culture was allowed to continue for decades after it was first recognized in the late 80s early 90s.

You’re living in cloud-cuckoo land. Just as QE uses horror stories to show the Muslim conspiracy, so you use scare stories to show the Establishment conspiracy. It#’s Elders of Zion stuff on both your parts. To claim economic policy has been used to create an ‘underclass’ by Thatcher, in order to deflect attention from themselves, is a parody or reality, relying on ignorance of economic policy in the last 30 years. You end up shadowboxing an Establishment whihc is incompetent and complacent rather than the evil masterminds behind everything that’s gone wrong. You fight results and ignored the causes. Conspiracies occur all the time, like bomb plots, but they rarely come off. The cockup theory of history applies, not the conspiracy by the Elders of Zion, Muslims, the Establishment, or me. Come down to earth and maybe you’ll actually be able to start fighting against these problems rather than blasting off like an air raid siren gone out of control.

You can claim about horror stories and “elders of zion” but you can’t argue with crime statistics released by Scotland yard. I’m interested in your response the the figures instead of projecting what you want to be the case in some kind of utopian state.

The hundreds of young boys and young men emerging now as adults who were sexually abused by football coaches?

Oh wait the liberal middle class establishment covered that one up as well for 30 years.

Must be another “conspiracy” theory by the lower classes Sceptical despises while his class covered it up for political reasons.

sceptical guy wrote:

Weak argument, Gerry, covered by the oddest and most bizarre of accusations. The weaker the argument, the more bizarre and rapid the accusations to cover the weakness. The more the accusations are answered, the more they multiply, leaving all concnection to reality behind. Stick to argument, play the ball, not the man. You put forward an analysis of Establishment conspiracy and the use of economic policy to create of an ‘underclass’. That’s wrong, it doesn’t stand up to questioning. The bellowing doesn’t make it right. Argue it, don’t divert attention elsewhere into personal abuse.

You started with the personal abuse, you dishonest tosser. You always do.

You can dress it up how you like Sceptical, with what you assume is an intelligent response. You’re always posing for the audience, preening yourself, congratulating yourself, like a prat.

Anyone with half a brain knows the lengths the political class and establishment have gone to cover up historical sex abuse, starting with eg Jimmy Saville, MPs, Minor Royals, football coaches, Catholic Priests, Northern Mill Town grooming gangs. The BBC, etc etc etc

You just don’t get it Sceptical, your class coundn’t run a piss up in a brewery and the more it refuses to take responsibility for what has happened on its watch, the more the “populist” movement grows.  Your class has been suckling from the teat for the past 35 years, at the expense of everyone else. The internet has changed all that and you, you are just a brainwashed tool who regurgitates what you have been indocrinated to regurgitate.