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@londonseagull wrote:
@mucky1234 wrote:
Flippin eck! Remind me not to get on the bad side of any of you lot!!!
Also, just to clarify, it’s a chatroom. You may have noticed that on occassion people lie, cheat, abuse etc etc etc. I have even spotted a few people in there using fake names……like mucky1234, which isn’t my real name btw!!!
Chillax and enjoy the sunshine would be my advice
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Yes people on here do fake, from lies to deceit to taking peoples lives as a complete nothing and throwing them about like a toy. I don’t think it is something you just write off as ‘hey it’s just the internet’… it affects lives whether you think it sad or lonely or not. There are laws nowadays that protect people from online harassment and abuse, so it is actually quite serious.
Again just to clarify – I haven’t harassed or abused anyone other than saying that the image posted in the other forum was taken from a hairdressing website. Internet fraud is also actually quite serious. This is how grooming etc takes place.
I suppose those of us that have always been honest about who we are, find it hard to understand the need for people to have fake personas. To myself if you need to have a fake persona it is obviously for immoral purposes or you have an incredibly low self esteem and if that is the case, it would be easier to not share your picture than to make one up. There are plenty of users in the chat rooms who remain an enigma and who have gained as much respect as those who chose to wear their heart on their sleeve, I see no need to fake who you are.
edited because I typo’d ”immortal” purpose which is something entirely different!
“judge not that ye be not judged”
A godly type person wrote that.
“a man’s a man for all that”
some Scottish geezer.
“just sayin'”
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Sorry Melody, I didn’t accuse you of anything, I am sure you are a lovely person. I was generalising as I usually try to do. Nothing against you.
heres a tip, u can re-upload urls of pics back into google image and see where they originate from if you find a match to the particular pic you are dubious of and it turns out the ”match” originates from ”calvin klien underwear models” or summet, thn the chances are they are a fake, however, i agree with alot of you that if your are decieving people with fake pics and personas then u are only mugging yourself and no one need outing them cos a large dose of reallity will hit them hard one day. on the other hand, i am nothing like my chatroom ”persona” but i dont see a big problem wih that as it is a release for me , i think alot of people would not dare say the things in real life as they do online. the anonimity of the internet does strange things to people, wether they are using it for good ( releasing their full pootentiol ,, that their shyness would not allow in real life) or for bad ( releasing anger onto strangers. without the risk of a black eye)
I told you you were going to get caught between a rock and a hard place Mel.
Ok I have given this much thought and I would like to add the following:
Firstly I stand by my actions of telling people that this person’s photograph was found on other websites – MULTIPLE websites in fact.
I have since been offered 2 excuses for this person’s image having been on these sites. The first being that the sold their image to these sites and the second being that their image has been plagiarised, in which case they should be seeking legal action against about 6 websites.
At this point I would also like to agree that the internet if full of liars and vile cheats.
Perhaps this person is genuine. It is not for me to say. All I know is their photograph was a professional image.So let us now look at this from another angle.
I have been vilified for telling people that this image was not all it seemed. I have been abused in open chat, called ‘vile’, a ‘bit ch’, ‘ugly’ and have been told my email address will be circulated over the internet. These are from people associated with this couple. Is that not internet bullying?
So continuing my point, whether this person turns out to be genuine or not, do we all sit back and ignore these people who post fake images of themselves?
I have an 11 year old daughter who is very internet savvy, other than my strict parenting of her internet use, there is nothing to stop her from using a fake image and coming into a chat room and striking up a relationship with a 40 year old man. I would hope that if someone saw a suspicious image they would speak up about it and prevent such things. Similarly, we all hear about internet grooming and the like and although this could all turn out to be completely innocent and possibly a mistake on my part – if proven otherwise – should we not all play a part on policing the internet?If this is all a complete misunderstanding then I am truly sorry. I had much respect for both of these individuals up until discovering the image.
I did not search this persons IP, which allegedly states they are in the UK with a British ISP someone else did
I did not start the fake relationship rumour others did
I did not take screenshots of the female of the partnership bad mouthing the other partner in chat someone else did.
I did not continue this debate in the chat rooms – the trolls are doing that.
I have not named these people at all in here.
I would also like to add that I actually defended this couple when their relationship was being discussed and dismissed by certain ‘friends’ of them in F2, the same friend who now chooses to abuse me in the rooms.I would also like to add that I did try to private message the male of the partnership last night in chat to offer an explanation for my actions. He told me he was too angry to talk to me at the moment.
I have certainly discovered who are the ‘real’ adults on this site in the past 24 hours and who are sensationalists, trolls, and bullies. God bless you all. :wink:
I now request that this thread be closed and if seen fit deleted, as it is continuing to cause hurt to many people.
I would be disappointed if this thread is locked or deleted, as it serves as a good debate and hasn’t (as yet!) descended into name-calling or anything nasty.
But if the JC Gods decide otherwise, fair enough.
However, the cat is out of the bag and in all honesty, it’s not on the boards that the problem lies, it’s the nasty vicious trolls and the (alleged) friends of the people in question that are causing the problems.
Speaking of Trolls (and we all know who they are), I find this to be an accurate depiction of their behaviour:
If you want the thread closed or deleted you will have to contact Martin. I doubt he reads every post on here so don’t assume that he will see your request on a thread.
We can all be whoever we want to be on the internet, that’s the beauty of it yet it is a double-edged sword. As someone who has helped draw attention to a fake that was hurting other people, I empathise with the heart searching. There is no right or wrong answer, every case is different, but if you do stand up for what you believe is right then no matter what other people throw at you, you know in your heart that you have done the right thing by your own moral standards and conscience.
As for being given information – you may not have been given the IP address but you were given information derived from that IP address. I’m sorry but in my opinion that is out of order. If someone owns a website that others use, the users have a right to expect whatever information can be derived by the site owner or their administrators and moderators to be treated in confidence. The only way any of that information should be shared with others is if the person is involved in criminal activities and in that instance it should be shared with the relevant authorities. If the owner/adminsitrator of that site have concerns about a user of the site they address it to the user, not share it with others.
If you’ve done nothing wrong
You’ve got nothing to fear
If you’ve something to hide
You shouldn’t even be hereIntegral – Pet Shop Boys
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