FAITH……..THE FINAL FRONTIER

@gazlan wrote:

It appears the dust has settled….over 100 replies in this post and they are largely taken up with the subject of evolution together with science of one sort or another, it also appears we have very few faithful here or perhaps for one reason or another they choose not to give response….. :lol: It would seem that any serious debate relating to faith, religion and evolution cannot advance at all as generally speaking, it tends to reduce to offence and insult…

My own personal view as an agnostic is that whatever the scientific outcomes of evolution and abiogenesis etc provide, i hold to the view that the very first element, be it vapour, gas, matter inanimate or animate…..it had to be created…the incredible diversity in molecular structure together with DNA and its combination and set motions lead me to believe that this was no act of chance…the main religions describe to an extent some of this in their contents and this provides the basis for the faithful….i have also noticed large amounts of people who continue to claim to be part of a faith yet cannot follow the scriptures of that faith, these people i would put in the same catergory as the hypocrite.
Their can be no ` sitting on the fence ` in my opinion, you either hold to your beliefs and practice them as they are set out or….. give yourself the title of the agnostic…

If you believe that the first element had to be created, then I think it follows on that you also have to believe that the entity who created the element had to be created. It’s the old chicken and egg thing again, but I still think it’s an important point.
A lot of people would also say that DNA is just the result of natural selection acting upon random mutations, and that no intellegence is therefore required for it.

@gazlan wrote:

and an aganostic is someone who is sitting on the fence to all intents and purposes

An agnostic, holds to no scripture therefore cannot deviate….it is a belief in a Creator not a system of beliefs. This cannot be sitting on the fence, it is a decision to believe…

Likewise with the athiest…..it is a position to disbeleive in a God….they cannot be given the title hypocrite in terms of religion…

Main Entry: ag·nos·tic

Function: noun

1 : a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god

An agnostic is someone who doesnt know, neither accepts or rejects

@gazlan wrote:

Their can be no ` sitting on the fence ` in my opinion, you either hold to your beliefs and practice them as they are set out or….. give yourself the title of the agnostic…

I disagree…there is a difference between faith and religion. I do not follow any organised religion but I have a strong faith and hold true to my own beliefs rather than those dictated by others. That does not make me agnostic, but neither do I fit into any of the religious boxes.

Then somewhere out there is another earth with another you doing exactly what you’re doing now