dundee man

So you’re doing nothing

On the contrary, being a thorn in the side of the deceivers is a very honourable persuasion to have…. And very pleasing .. This together with simply enjoying my freedom of expression on this forum and others, is my small but relevant way to instigate debate and establish what many people are very ignorant to 8)

There are dozens of threads on this site where people express their outrage about all sorts of subjects – paedophiles, shootings, Lady Gaga (!?), olympic mascots – no one is expected to be doing anything concrete to justify their outrage. Why would we hold Mr Gazlan to different standards?

Do you think for one instant, that your bias and dislike of me is masked by the non-sense you carry on with ? Yes, very well put Mr Pikey

There’s more to come. How does Israel plan to deal with the Irish ship the MV Rachel Corrie, which is on its way with aid to the Gaza Strip? Mairead Corrigan Maguire, a Nobel peace prizewinner, is onboard. Will Israel argue that the Eire government, which has given this ship its backing, is a supporter of Al-Qaida and send commandos again?

This will be very interesting, it is long overdue that the western powers, in particular the UN at least attempt to enforce international laws against the zionist threat to world stability…watch that space.

Let me just step back here :?

I often keep in mind though, the difficulty in understanding just who the terrorists are and just who decides that… Lets attack a country because they refuse to abide by international rules and create an absolute bloodbath using enough money to wipe out poverty probably more than once, even short term……..and then close our eyes and ears when certain countries wipe their ar~se with them… Next thing i`ll be called anti semitic because i can see exactly what them zionists are doing and dare to question it…. I am overnight acused of being a homophobe because i question the act itsely…The one thing strikes me is that some of you people have a very twisted sense of deliberation and perception…. :?

Mark Steel: Of course, they were asking for it

It’s time the Israeli government’s PR team made the most of its talents, and became available for hire. Then whenever a nutcase marched into a shopping mall in somewhere like Wisconsin and gunned down a selection of passers-by, they could be on hand to tell the world’s press “The gunman regrets the loss of life but did all he could to avoid violence.” Then various governments would issue statements saying “All we know is a man went berserk with an AK 47, and next to him there’s a pile of corpses, so until we know the facts we can’t pass judgement on what took place.”

To strengthen their case the Israelis have released a photo of the weapons they found on board, (which amount to some knives and tools and wooden sticks) that the naive might think you’d expect to find on any ship, but the more astute will recognise as exactly what you’d carry if you were planning to defeat the Israeli army. It’s an armoury smaller than you’d find in the average toolshed in a garden in Cirencester, which goes to show the Israelis had better destroy Cirencester quickly as an essential act of self-defence.

It’s a shame they weren’t more imaginative, as they could have said “We also discovered a deadly barometer, a ship’s compass, which could not only be frisbeed at someone’s head but even had markings to help the assailant know which direction he was throwing it, and a set of binoculars that could easily be converted into a ray-gun.”

That would be as logical as the statement from the Israeli PM’s spokesman – “We made every possible effort to avoid this incident.” Because the one tiny thing they forgot to do to avoid this incident was not send in armed militia from helicopters in the middle of the night and shoot people. I must be a natural at this sort of technique because I often go all day without climbing off a helicopter and shooting people, and I’m not even making every possible effort. Politicians and commentators worldwide repeat a version of this line. They’re aware a nation has sent its militia to confront people carrying provisions for the desperate, in the process shooting several of them dead, and yet they angrily blame the dead ones. One typical headline yesterday read “Activists got what they wanted – confrontation.” It’s an attitude so deranged it deserves to be registered as a psychosis, something like “Reverse Slaughter Victim Confusion Syndrome”.

Israel and its supporters claim that Viva Palestina, made up of people who collect the donated food, cement and items for providing basic amenities such as toilets, and transport them to Gaza, wanted the violence all along. Because presumably they must have been thinking “Hezbollah couldn’t beat them, but that’s because unlike us they didn’t have a ballcock and several boxes of plum tomatoes”.

One article told us the flotilla was full of “Thugs spoiling for a confrontation”, and then accused them of being “Less about aid and more about PR. Indeed, on board was Swedish novelist Henning Mankell.” So were they thugs or about PR? Did they have a thugs’ section and a PR quarter, or did they all muck in, the novelist diverting the soldiers with his characterisation while the thugs attacked them with a lethal spirit level?

But some defenders of Israel are so blind to what happens in front of them there’s nothing at all they wouldn’t jump to defend. Israel could blow up a cats home and within five minutes they’d be yelling “How do we know the cats weren’t smuggling semtex in their fur for Hamas?”

If this incident had been carried about by Iran, or anyone we were trying to portray as an enemy, so much condemnation would have been spewed out it would have created a vast cloud of outrage that airlines would be unable to fly through.

But as it’s Israel, most governments offer a few diplomatic words that blame no one, but accept the deaths are “regrettable”. They might as well have picked any random word from the dictionary, so the news would tell us “William Hague described the deaths as ‘hexagonal'”, and a statement from the US senate said “It’s all very confusing. In future let’s hope they make every effort to avoid a similar incident.”

The Independent Wednesday, 2 June 2010

:lol:

What a ridiculous thought. You’ve basically just said that all oppression ever should have just been put up with.