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15 February, 2010 at 9:06 pm #432151
@gazlan wrote:
I am not convinced, personally, I think that there are a lot of people who are incompetent. Their answer to things is to “restructure” and then nobody knows what they are doing, endangered children are not taken into safety, and danger signs are missed. There is a climate of fear, nobody dare criticise. There are people who DO care and they get ignored.
Not convinced of what ?
`Their answer`…….who…?But who is “we”.
we all know
The clue is in the word ALL
So….. i repeat…. who are the murderers?
of course there can only ever be one gulty party and that is those who cause children direct harm….
:roll: :roll: :roll: :?
Not a f*cking word to be honest :?
15 February, 2010 at 9:53 pm #432152:mrgreen:
15 February, 2010 at 10:08 pm #432153One day……….people might actually care, digest, disolve, …. give 2 sh~its what people on message boards post
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15 February, 2010 at 10:18 pm #432154Someday people might just quote so we know whose said what cause you can bet your bottom dollar i aint trawling back through posts to decipher
16 February, 2010 at 12:25 am #432155And some people…. just might care….maybe
16 February, 2010 at 12:41 am #432156there is always hope :)
16 February, 2010 at 12:52 am #432157Some people always get whats due…. :)
16 February, 2010 at 1:23 pm #432158The failings don’t lie solely with the local authorities, in many cases they lie with the neighbour who could hear the child crying night after night but did nothing in case they were being too nosey or wrong, or the gp who couldn’t see consistancy because they only saw the child once or twice or never followed up a second appointment when they had a gut feeling something was wrong, or the child’s nursery or school worker who looked beyond the child constantly being unclean on arrival coz ‘ thats just how the family are’… need I go on? When a child at risk is notified to the local authorities its only then they can do something about it. This usually involves having to contact the child’s education setting, their health visitor, the gp, any social workers involved with the family, etc etc etc to build a big picture of any evidence or whether its a one off event causing the referral. This all takes time. People have to reply to all of their requests, they have to then bring together a ‘board’ type meeting where the case is heard and this board can consist of any of the affore mentioned ppl and local authority workers and child protection workers. At the end of this meeting they will decide if and how the child is at risk and whether they would be more at risk if they remain where they are or if they in removing them the effect of that alone would be as risky to their wellbeing. In most cases a child has to seriously at risk for them to rehome the child and where possible they will always try to keep the child where they are and work with the parents to educate them about their failings. The whole process stakes a long time and that is why children fall through the loop – tragic as it is. We must remember that child abuse happens in many levels… from the parent who doesn’t bother to take a sick child to the dr because work commitments are more important to the adult who murders or sexually abuses a child…. or the emotional abuse some children encounter… its all abuse… it just has to be defined and thats where the problem lies in leaving it all up to social workers who know nothing about the children or family… it should fall on the hands of anyone who knows them and sees a problem to report it and get the ball rolling.
16 February, 2010 at 6:57 pm #432159@pete wrote:
We always seem to attack social services, and sure mistakes get made but that happens everywhere. I often wonder how tied social services are how many hoops they have to jump through to actually do anything constructive. How many of us would scream if they removed our children and then found they’d made a mistake but allowing them to make those kinds of mistakes, within limits, would at least give them some actual power to protect
agreed and not a mention of the scum what does it .
they are in a no win situation if they act in haste and get it wrong they are slaughtered too , the job will never , ever be fool proof, lesson will learned and hopefully these so called “failings ” will lessen , but will never be stopped so long as theres scum out there that want to harm children16 February, 2010 at 7:45 pm #432160It’s not my intention to dampen anyone’s righteous indignation at tragedies of this kind and, of course, one case is one too many, but it should be remembered, I think, that the country is actually making good progress with this sort of thing: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8497277.stm
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