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If there is a God and you dont believe its hell and eternal gnashing of teeth and wailing for you. If you believe and you’re wrong … well you’ll never know eh
Some people need the belief whether it’s hocus pocus or not. They need to know that their dead relatives are safe, and are waiting for them, and that their lives have some sort of purpose, and meaning, and that they arent an evolutionary accident.
Im not against the idea of a creator. The creator being someone who is simply a more advanced being than us. Give human being’s another few millenia of evolution, and we ourselves will probably be able to create universes, and be “gods”, but I doubt very much the creator is any of the earth sky daddy’s. The cosmological constant is also an interesting concept, though not without major flaws.@Bad Manners wrote:
Some people need the belief whether it’s hocus pocus or not. They need to know that their dead relatives are safe, and are waiting for them, and that their lives have some sort of purpose, and meaning, and that they arent an evolutionary accident.
Im not against the idea of a creator. The creator being someone who is simply a more advanced being than us. Give human being’s another few millenia of evolution, and we ourselves will probably be able to create universes, and be “gods”, but I very much the creator is any of the earth sky daddy’s. The cosmological constant is also an interesting concept, though not without major flaws.agreed
Again i’d ask what if you’re wrong and the bible is right ?
@pete wrote:
If there is a God and you dont believe its hell and eternal gnashing of teeth and wailing for you. If you believe and you’re wrong … well you’ll never know eh
Heaven won’t have me and Hell’s afraid I’ll take over :lol:
It’s a ludricrous concept isnt it “believe or go to hell”. This means that if a murderer repents, and starts believing then he’ll get his ticket to heaven, whilst the kind hearted, generous, law abiding athiest gets hot pokers stuck into him in hell.
To my mind the idea of hell is as ludicrous as the idea of heaven.
Face death and see if you dont pray ?
What if you’re wrong ? and i’m not wrong isn’t an answer
How about if someone prays before they die, but in their heart they still dont believe? Do you think this will be enough to convince or fool the sky daddy, or have to they got to believe in their hearts as well, and how can someone believe something in their hearts when it’s totally illogical to them, and has no real evidence to back it up in the 1st place.
Didnt the sky daddy create them in the 1st place anyway knowing that the person wasnt going to believe in him, or did the sky daddy not forsee that? The atheist didnt even have a choice in whether they were born or not anyway. Why didnt the sky daddy just create a world of believers at the beginning if everyone had to be believers to get into his kingdom?Ah a world of robots programmed to believe .. I dont know i’m not religious
I have to agreee with most of what BM’s saying. I remember as a child, lots of kids the same, being scared shyteless by the nuns, telling us what god would do to us if we didn’t do this or do that, we didn’t understand, we were kids. I wonder who thought that one up tho, heres a good idea, we’ll scare them into submission. It’s no wonder i’m an athiest :roll: not totally I spose, i’d like to believe that theres something: Is there something to be said for the afterlife? who knows, is it real or is it just open to personal perception.
I said in the first place that I don’t follow my own religion, it has major major flaws in it, what doesnt I spose, but to me it’s different when your holding yourself up as a christian and you wouldnt know christianity if it bit you on the @rse. It should be about personal choice, no one has the right to force their religious beliefs on someone else and thats where it all goes wrong, there are far too many people, some of whom in fact, are being allowed to try!! to do, just that.
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