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20 December, 2009 at 7:55 pm #426298
Damn Scousers. Can’t take them anywhere.
20 December, 2009 at 8:06 pm #426299I understand all the comments along the lines of “we must remember so that it can never happen again” and yet, as Pete so aptly points out, it has happened again …. and keep on happening over and over and over again.
Asia, the Middle East, and particularly Africa … wherever you look people are being slaughtered in their hundreds of thousands and seemingly for broadly the same reasons that the Nazis slaughtered, not only the Jews, but anybody that they didn’t like.
So I find myself wondering just what it is that we must “remember” in order to stop it “happening again”?
OK so pinching the “Arbeit Macht Frei”sign was guaranteed to offend pretty much anybody at one level or another, but maybe there is a message here. Maybe, just maybe beating ourselves up with ‘guilt’ for the last 65-70 years or so is enough and we really should mone on.
21 December, 2009 at 12:04 pm #426300Nice typo at the end there PB :wink:
21 December, 2009 at 12:18 pm #426301OOOPS!!! that really was a Freudian slip wasn’t it?
MoVing on however, it appears from today’s news that the Auschwitz sign thieves weren’t neo-Nazis after all (now there’s a surprise) but were in fact common criminals – who have been arested – the German equivalent of pikey scrap metal dealers.
So all the hoo-ha (or ‘sturm unt drang’) around the alleged desecration of a sacred memorial to the murdered Jews etc was nothing more than a ‘sturm’ in a teacup as it were.
I was wondering last night, in the context of this thread, how much longer this constant re-visiting of the 1940-1945 atrocities will continue? We’ve managed 65-70 years so far, will it extend to 100 years? Or more? Eventually there will have to be some sort of closure to all this stuff – however terrible it was for those both directly and indirectly involved.
21 December, 2009 at 12:51 pm #426302It happened and it is now in the history books. It will never be forgotten, nor should it. As others have pointed out, it seems that the human race can not learn from its mistakes.
Not only are atrocities of a similar nature happening at the moment in practically any country you care to mention, but it could still happen here in the future.
And that’s the point. Our relatives fought and died to protect the future for us and our children. Because you can be sure that Hitler would have rid the world of Jews and then started on another ethnic cleansing regime after that. Once you start on something like he did, it is almost impossible to stop.
21 December, 2009 at 3:31 pm #426303Guess who “thought up” the concentration camp… yeah you got it, the british
21 December, 2009 at 3:32 pm #426304Yes Pete. In the Boer War, I think?
21 December, 2009 at 3:33 pm #426305Yep eve it certainly was
21 December, 2009 at 3:35 pm #426306The British do get some good ideas dont they? Like the Highland Clearances and the settlement of Ireland and India and the ownership of Canada and Hey , lets call this place Rhodesia after Cecil Rhodes cos we like him. Bah
31 December, 2009 at 1:12 am #426307Actually, not so certainly. It’s a myth that the British invented concentration camps. Earlier camps were instituted by the United States in order to control Phillipino and Indian natives, by Spain to control unruly Cubans and by the Russians to deal with Polish rebels even as far back as the eighteenth century.
In any case, the British ones in the Second Boer War, while they were places rife with disease and misery, were hardly on the German model of planned, systematic genocide. Perhaps, in order that a distinction can be drawn, it would be best to think of the German ones as extermination camps.
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