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    Not half a country’s worth arent planned, and they’re high maintenance. Realistically there’s two options long term, coal or nuclear unless someone cracks nuclear fusion

    #396462

    Not half a country’s worth arent planned, and they’re high maintenance. Realistically there’s two options long term, coal or nuclear unless someone cracks nuclear fusion

    The plan is to produce 35-45% of our electricity from windpower by 2020.

    Here’s a link to the Crown Estate’s info on Round 3 proposals, which would be for many far-offshore windfarms producing up to 25GW of electricity – to add to the 8GW that the Round 1 and Round 2 windfarms will produce when they are completed. That would come to 33GW. Britain’s total electricty generating capacity at the moment is about 75GW, although output is usually around 40GW, rising to a maximum of 60GW in winter.
    Hurry now if you want to tender for a contract!!!
    see:- http://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/round3

    The cost of linking all these new windfarms to the grid with undersea cables is estimated at £10 billion on top of the cost of purchasing and installing the wind turbines.

    Building 12 new nuclear power stations, as is being considered, would cost up to £30 billion. The decommissioning costs of existing nuclear power stations is estimated at £73 billion – but we’re stuck with that.

    #396463

    @pete wrote:

    Not half a country’s worth arent planned, and they’re high maintenance. Realistically there’s two options long term, coal or nuclear unless someone cracks nuclear fusion

    Fusion might just have been cracked, google polywell. it’s so simple university scholars can build one and costs pennies with no fallout.
    The project cost a massive $3,000. No, that’s not a misprint: that is three thousand dollars.

    http://iecfusiontech.blogspot.com/2008/12/wb-6-results-confirmed-continuous.html

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/science/sciencenews/3981697/Scientists-plan-to-ignite-tiny-man-made-star.html

    #396464

    Fusion was cracked ages ago. It’s known as the hydrogen bomb!!!

    But seriously, it looks like there’s enough in the idea of controlled fusion to make serious continuing research worthwhile.

    #396465

    we will not get 35 – 45% of our power from wind turbines offshore or not, that still equates to covering 1/4 of the countrys area in wind turbines and unless theyre going to build islands the sea is gonna batter them. The maintenance costs will be huge

    #396466

    It’s all planned, so the chances are it will happen. It’s at least as likely as the proposed 10-12 new nuclear power stations being built. I’m sure maintenance won’t be cheap, but there’s no cost of mining and transporting the fuel, as with coal. If this is going to be a new industry, ongoing maintenence costs is part and parcel of it, as with most other industries. A lot of the offshore engineering skills from the North Sea oil and gas industry are transferable to offshore wind turbine maintenance, and as the the oil and gas declines, the windfarms could provide employment for displaced workers.

    Fifty years ago, who would have believed that we’d be extracting oil and gas from under bed of the North Sea with huge drilling rigs and that Britain’s entire gas network would be converted from coal-gas to natural gas over a period of a few years during the 1970s? The whole idea would have been ridiculed by most people….e,g, “But, my good fellow, even if there is any oil or gas beneath the North Sea, how the blue blazes would you extract it and transport it to the land?”

    The offshore turbines do not need islands, each one is individually installed on a pedestal fixed to the sea-bed. See pic of the existing offshore windfarm off the Norfolk coast. It seems there are 3 methods of installing the pedestal – a single large pile driven into the seabed, 3 smaller piles supporting a tripod or ‘gravity’, where the pedestal is embedded in a very large block of concrete that rests on the sea bed. The Dogger Bank, where many of the large offshore windfarms are proposed, has a sea depth varying between 15 and 36 metres – shallow in terms of underwater construction.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00062/windfarm_62569s.jpg

    And here is a map of the grand masterplan:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00347/map_347887a.jpg
    The big orange areas show where the Round 3 windfarms are planned to be, but they won’t fill the entire areas!

    #396467

    One thing resulting from the huge programme for offshore wind farms is that the need for building land-based windfarms here is much reduced.

    These are the statistics I’ve got on land-based, or onshore windfarms in UK.
    The figures are the number of individual wind turbines.

    Operational now………..3390
    Under Construction………846
    Given go-ahead…………1837
    Planned……………………3244

    I make that a total of 9317 – but this includes a lot of fairly small turbines, down to 225 kilowatts, about one tenth of what a typical big turbine is rated at.
    I’m guessing that this represents about the maximum extent of land-based windpower, give or take a few turbines.
    By the time all these have been built, the much bigger offshore programme will be well advanced.

    One more statistic I gleaned – a bit out of date – wind turbines in UK on average produce about 31% of their rated capacity, but in winter, when there is more wind and more demand for electricty, that figure rises to 44%. They produce their full rated output for 10% of the time.

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