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Sorry that i brought up Mizzy in this thread,i shouldent have.I in no way mean to take anything away from nems,brave decision to share her depression.Have to say i was so glad she did share,i understand nems better and she sounds like she is coping very well.Evrything i have sed to nems,is ment to let her know she is not on her own,i for one just understand her.I understand clinical depression.Gladens my heart that she has made some big decisions and turned her life around.That is very hard to do.Good on her.Linda and i are just fine.People have little bumps but get over them.
Well done on the sheer perseverance,and effert you have put in to batteling your depression Nems.That takes guts!
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Who is this person who comes in every once in a blue moon hides in the dark and preaches advice..? Don’t tell me my needs, thank you. I am willing and capable to make big decisions on my own.?
So now again third time said PLEASE..don’t you include me. Thank you again.
Are you making a statement or are you asking us to clarify your position?
Either way it does not matter as this thread is not about you. I am sure that we all feel sorry for you because it is clear that you do not appear to know your own mind. You are blatantly sharing your lack of authenticity and autonomy with us.
Being so selfish is not a good thing. Its not about you both, its about Nem. Think about her right now, she needs your support. Forget Mizzy. You really both need to get over her and move on. Nem needs you right now.
Again – Stop being selfish and offer Nem some support. Your petty grievances and jealousies need to be laid to rest, try to assist someone who is clearly asking for understanding and support and for once in your sad life stop talking absolute rubbish.
I hope CBT works for you Nem, research shows that it has assisted many and can be a very useful tool.
Sorry that i brought up Mizzy in this thread,i shouldent have.I in no way mean to take anything away from nems,brave decision to share her depression.Have to say i was so glad she did share,i understand nems better and she sounds like she is coping very well.Evrything i have sed to nems,is ment to let her know she is not on her own,i for one just understand her.I understand clinical depression.Gladens my heart that she has made some big decisions and turned her life around.That is very hard to do.Good on her.Linda and i are just fine.People have little bumps but get over them.
Well done on the sheer perseverance,and effert you have put in to batteling your depression Nems.That takes guts!
I am sure we will all forgive you for your bitchy unkind remarks Jamie, we are all aware of your issues and to be honest none of us ever really take you seriously and most of us just disregard anything you say anyway. We are all used to you by now. I am sure that Nems will appreciate the nice things you say even though you are probably the most insincere person who comes into JC.
It is good that you admit when you are wrong. It is just a shame that you cannot break out of your cycle of repeating the same behaviours over and over again.
Most of us see right through you. Pretend you give a crap about others, I am sure Nems will appreciate your token gesture. Keep up the good work.
Well, I take you seriously, Jamie
.CBT isn’t the big saviour which was touted about it when it first appeared.
I was told a few years ago by a woman who was then in charge of CBT locally that it can get you back to a plateau, but then it stops being useful.
Thus – when you have that type of depression, you collapse as a functioning person. You don’t eat, wash etc, as you should do. You don’t do this because you’re dead inside. Flat as a pancake. The motor which pushes us all forward isn’t revving anymore.
What CBT does is to get you functioning again, and unless you are in a zombie state 9and some are), then you can get functioning properly. You wash yourself, feed yourself at regular times. In fact, routine becomes crucial to your survival. You’re even told that you’re being social by going to town at an appointed date and saying hello with a smile to the shopkeeper.
So far, so good.
But you’re still dead inside. You’re going through the motions. What’s needed is to rev the engine up again for your emotions. That needs a therapy which only people very close to you can provide. A counsellor etc can’t reach to you in that way.
It’s hard, really is., but it can be done with a person having good empathy.
CBT wont cure my depression, time, anyi depressants and having a solid circle of support will do that. What CBT will do is equip me on how yo deal with all this.
That flat state scep? Its not flat, its having nothing left to give, i force myself to live, to do the simplest things like wash and eat, and sleep. Every day is a struggle, i do have good days but oh lordy the bad days are still so, so bad. I have no more fuel in the tank, i have been running on empty for so long, something had to give.
Im tired. Tired of feeling needy, insecure, and oh so tired of feeling like this.
Right now im trying to get my sleep on track, i actually took a sleeping pill last night. That sucked! Took hours (still) to drop off, then a night of dreaming (ya know where you know youre dreaming?) Woke up at 11.30 feeling like i have the hangover from hell…. yay! I get the side effects without the benefits! Will talk to the dr about that, i only took one pill (3.5mg of zopiclone) the dosage is 3.5 to 7mg so maybe two would work better?
There are a lot of positives that are coming out of, and will come out of this. I will be stronger, freer, and way more self aware.
I am lucky that i have someone very close to me that has been through this, they are my anchor right now and i have a few people close to me that i know i can rely on.
CBT wont get to the causes of this, it cant. It will give me tools to deal with it. I am talkjng to people (including arranging grief counselling) and starting to look at and deal with all those things i just put away in a lil box in my head.
I dont care how many times i slip, i will make mistakes, but (and this matters) i will grab any help i can and no matter what i will keep on going on.
I don’t need to ‘ forgive’ Jamie. She hasn’t done anything wrong, maybe she shouldn’t have mentioned Mizzy, but she didn’t make an unkind bitchy remark about her, she was reminding Linda that Mizzy also had issues and maybe needed a bit more help and understanding, that was all.
”we are all aware of your issues and to be honest none of us ever really take you seriously and most of us just disregard anything you say anyway. We are all used to you by now.”
Now that is what you call a bitchy remark.
I’m not sure who you think ‘we’ and ‘we are all ‘ are ?? I don’t know anyone who thinks that !
Please don’t speak for me. I take Jamie very seriously and value her contributions. I suggest you drop it. If anyone is ruining Nem’s excellent thread it’s your good self.
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I really don’t need to explain to anyone here about my deep appreciation to Nemesis way way long before she came out on a thread..she has had always my support and will continue as I will never ever abandon her and or needs..ever..
When I first came here..it was her who kept my own sanity in check..NO ONE ELSE.. well another..yep..Sceptical. With out both support I would have left and never learned..or come back.
So she was there for me none of you ever knew..so please don’t think it about me. She a good person. For almost 2 years I have known her, laughed, got pist and cried with. I needed her..I was needy to learn..how..why..so forth. So don’t assume what you don’t really know about.
She will always have my love. Support..think she knows that.. as well as sceptical. Thank you both for being there for me!
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Well Nems and i have not really got on that well,we have come accross each other from time to time.Now knowing each others struggles were not there anymore.I am sure we understans and respect each other more now and the past is the past,water under the bridge.We have both changed i think.Life is too short.I support her in her fight with depression.
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It is good to move on some times. It is those baby steps in my opinion that help.
Not easy..but as long as we try every little bit helps.
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