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5 November, 2013 at 1:12 pm #520627
@trapper wrote:
They’ll still just tell you to buck up or some other inane (pull yourself together) type phrase
or the classic “what have YOU got to be miserable about?”
That one’s always cheery.
:)
5 November, 2013 at 7:43 pm #520628@sceptical guy wrote:
There is a real danger of getting into platitudes when discussing depression, as there is in discussing mental illness in general.
The effect can be patronising.
people who suffer depression, and other mental problems are suffering.
To have do-gooders coming having a weep and telling the uncaring off actually sounds worse than people who tell the victim to buck up etc.
Suffering is turned into a charity-attitude.
yes but…………insight is a wondeful thing
6 November, 2013 at 8:19 am #520629@tinks wrote:
@sceptical guy wrote:
There is a real danger of getting into platitudes when discussing depression, as there is in discussing mental illness in general.
The effect can be patronising.
people who suffer depression, and other mental problems are suffering.
To have do-gooders coming having a weep and telling the uncaring off actually sounds worse than people who tell the victim to buck up etc.
Suffering is turned into a charity-attitude.
yes but…………insight is a wondeful thing
and insight is what gets buried beneath the platitudes and self-satisfied ‘goodness’.
6 November, 2013 at 8:19 pm #520630Sooner that than be told to buck up..if i could I fucking would
6 November, 2013 at 8:57 pm #5206317 November, 2013 at 9:31 am #520632@trapper wrote:
Sooner that than be told to buck up..if i could I fucking would
If you’re suffering from simple depression, then go to the doctor and get referred – for CBT, maybe.
It does depend on the severity of the depression, but to tell you the truth, you can only expect ppl to tell you to buck up for a basic reason. It’s their way of handling not being pulled into a depression. When qualified therapists and doctors treat depression ( and it does depend on the degree of severity) they need time alone in a quiet and peaceful room as part of their training. Depression is very infectious.
One therapist once told me that she found depression really hard to treat because of its effect. High anxiety cases didn’t affect her the same way.
so trapper, if you can, put your dooks up and demand that something be done to help you deal with it.
Your problem then is only the simple one of cuts in health spending :shock: :shock: :shock:
7 November, 2013 at 10:07 pm #520633“simple” depression ?
8 November, 2013 at 9:02 am #520634When I first started chatting in 2012 I thought it was absolutely fantastic. I could use my silly sense of humour and hopefully, my warm humanity to inspire people, to pull them up and to make them laugh. And as a two-way process, it could make me smile, forgot my troubles, give myself a lift. And sometimes it works, it really does.
But I thought I had made friends for life online, and in one case, I thought I had found everlasting love. Actually I have; but this time it is a one-way situation. Every friend I have ever made online has simply disappeared from my life. Some are busy with work; others decide to spend most of the time in the real world; some people you feel really close to disappear without saying goodbye; and other just simply start ignoring you.
I know I try too hard and most people just want to relax and be entertained. But since returning to the chat room or forum, and I have logged on three times, I have mainly been talking to myself. Trying to make jokes and be silly, but just feeling a complete fool and an absolute failure. And it makes me feel very sad and I don’t want to feel this way. Life is hard and depressing as it is.
I realise that this is going to sound so self-centred and full of self-pity. And I am sorry about it. But I do find it much easier to write in the first person and from my own experiences in life. I guess I need to pick and choose my moments on here much more carefully. If I need to relax, then maybe reading a book or watching television might be a better option. If there was anything worth watching that is.
Oh, I still intend to come on here and visit the chat room. Because there are several people that have impressed me and more importantly, I want to know that they are doing okay and that they are still around. I feel very fond of the people on justchat, and in a short space of time and I hope to be talking to them for a long time to come.
Warm wishes
martin43/typhoo
8 November, 2013 at 8:54 pm #520635@sceptical guy wrote:
@tinks wrote:
@sceptical guy wrote:
There is a real danger of getting into platitudes when discussing depression, as there is in discussing mental illness in general.
The effect can be patronising.
people who suffer depression, and other mental problems are suffering.
To have do-gooders coming having a weep and telling the uncaring off actually sounds worse than people who tell the victim to buck up etc.
Suffering is turned into a charity-attitude.
yes but…………insight is a wondeful thing
and insight is what gets buried beneath the platitudes and self-satisfied ‘goodness’.
scep can you explain that please?
8 November, 2013 at 9:39 pm #520636@martin43 wrote:
When I first started chatting in 2012 I thought it was absolutely fantastic. I could use my silly sense of humour and hopefully, my warm humanity to inspire people, to pull them up and to make them laugh. And as a two-way process, it could make me smile, forgot my troubles, give myself a lift. And sometimes it works, it really does.
But I thought I had made friends for life online, and in one case, I thought I had found everlasting love. Actually I have; but this time it is a one-way situation. Every friend I have ever made online has simply disappeared from my life. Some are busy with work; others decide to spend most of the time in the real world; some people you feel really close to disappear without saying goodbye; and other just simply start ignoring you.
I know I try too hard and most people just want to relax and be entertained. But since returning to the chat room or forum, and I have logged on three times, I have mainly been talking to myself. Trying to make jokes and be silly, but just feeling a complete fool and an absolute failure. And it makes me feel very sad and I don’t want to feel this way. Life is hard and depressing as it is.
I realise that this is going to sound so self-centred and full of self-pity. And I am sorry about it. But I do find it much easier to write in the first person and from my own experiences in life. I guess I need to pick and choose my moments on here much more carefully. If I need to relax, then maybe reading a book or watching television might be a better option. If there was anything worth watching that is.
Oh, I still intend to come on here and visit the chat room. Because there are several people that have impressed me and more importantly, I want to know that they are doing okay and that they are still around. I feel very fond of the people on justchat, and in a short space of time and I hope to be talking to them for a long time to come.
Warm wishes
martin43/typhoo
Lots and lots of people are pretending to be something they aint because it’s not face to face and they aren’t likely to be found out till they start believing the bullshit they’re typing. Me I’m as hard as nails and never ever get hurt… see it’s easy :wink:
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