Denial

@waspish wrote:

@esmeralda wrote:

@waspish wrote:

@esmeralda wrote:

@waspish wrote:

ive read in a couple of my hubbys science mag, that a lot of the global warming propaganda machine is about raising taxes. and little to do with the environment. i have read that a lot of scientists say that the earth has always been warming, and that there is little or nothing we can do about it. now im not agreeing with these veiws, and i do re cycle and have bought a l.p.g car because it is a lot cheaper, and cleaner to run than petrol or diesel. but a lot of people are now running their diesel cars on cooking oil. and as a biker i can tell you for a fact, that these cars spew out a lot of smoke, choking black dirty smoke, this cant be doing the environment any good. and before long the chancellor will slap a massive tax on cooking oil. so itwil cost a fiver to fil the chip pan. oil is now past its peak availability, and it can only become more expensive, the russians have staked a flag on the bottom of the arctic. so there will be a race on soon to grab the arctic and turn it into a giant oil refinary, that is if we dont all get nuked in the war for the land.

Global Warming is indeed nowt but a pocket-picking justification for governments worldwide, but as for your cooking oil commentary..the only black dirty smoke that’s spewing, is the stuff coming out of your rear end along with your brains.
In order for a car engine to run in perpetuation through means of cooking oil..that oil has first to be cleaned, filtered, purified, and chemically altered by a number of lengthy and considered processes. It takes weeks and often months, to build a bio-diesel processor and one has to deal with the legalities of tax and waste refuse certification.
My husband runs his own bio-diesel operation. Your notion of us scooting around on a pan of chip-fat is as laughable as it is ill-informed. As those eejits who may have tried that very thing will have found once their car-engines seize up fifty miles into their journeys.
And as a biker..I can tell YOU that for a fact.

Sorry but i beg to differ, oneof my best mates runs his tranny van [diesel engine] on cooking oil, and has done so for the last year. i know he does because ive seen it with my own eyes. so your sad attempt at calling me a liar has failed pet. im sure that your hubby does have his own business doing things with oil, but a tranny van will run on flora. as will any diesel engine.

Yeah..SVO will work on older diesel engines but the newer engines i.e. after 2002 are mostly CRD – far more sensitive to fuel change and thus the probability of severe damage.
On the even newer diesel engines..there are things called diesel particulate filters which will NOT operate on straight veg oil.
The only thing that can be used on all of these is well-produced bio diesel.
Furthermore, should methanol, soaps or lye remain present in badly reacted bio diesel..this will also cause serious damage to the more modern engine.
So go ahead..pour in the Flora..and if y’all have a Lucas fuel pump then prepare to take out a bank loan to repair the damage to your engine.

i didnt say i run any vehicle, so i wont be going ahead as you suggest. my mate does run his van on cooking oil, [mixed with diesel] and will continue to do so. i have a duel fuel car. petrol and mpg. its clean and economical as well as being eco friendly. im sure your hubby does wonders with his bio fuels. but what will be done when the third world is starved off because corn and wheat acerage is killed off in favour of oil seed rape ? very bio friendly im sure. but humanity friendly ? not so convinced.

Do I take it you mean LPG? Yes, our friends run their Range Rover on it very successfully. However, my DH doesn’t use straight forward vegetable oil – rather -WASTE vegetable oil which has been used previously in canteens and restaurants. As this oil has already been utilised, DH is providing a necessary service in taking this waste and re-processing it rather than it going to landfill. Shockingly, hundreds of thousands of gallons of the stuff goes to landfill every week.

@esmeralda wrote:

@waspish wrote:

@esmeralda wrote:

@waspish wrote:

@esmeralda wrote:

@waspish wrote:

ive read in a couple of my hubbys science mag, that a lot of the global warming propaganda machine is about raising taxes. and little to do with the environment. i have read that a lot of scientists say that the earth has always been warming, and that there is little or nothing we can do about it. now im not agreeing with these veiws, and i do re cycle and have bought a l.p.g car because it is a lot cheaper, and cleaner to run than petrol or diesel. but a lot of people are now running their diesel cars on cooking oil. and as a biker i can tell you for a fact, that these cars spew out a lot of smoke, choking black dirty smoke, this cant be doing the environment any good. and before long the chancellor will slap a massive tax on cooking oil. so itwil cost a fiver to fil the chip pan. oil is now past its peak availability, and it can only become more expensive, the russians have staked a flag on the bottom of the arctic. so there will be a race on soon to grab the arctic and turn it into a giant oil refinary, that is if we dont all get nuked in the war for the land.

Global Warming is indeed nowt but a pocket-picking justification for governments worldwide, but as for your cooking oil commentary..the only black dirty smoke that’s spewing, is the stuff coming out of your rear end along with your brains.
In order for a car engine to run in perpetuation through means of cooking oil..that oil has first to be cleaned, filtered, purified, and chemically altered by a number of lengthy and considered processes. It takes weeks and often months, to build a bio-diesel processor and one has to deal with the legalities of tax and waste refuse certification.
My husband runs his own bio-diesel operation. Your notion of us scooting around on a pan of chip-fat is as laughable as it is ill-informed. As those eejits who may have tried that very thing will have found once their car-engines seize up fifty miles into their journeys.
And as a biker..I can tell YOU that for a fact.

Sorry but i beg to differ, oneof my best mates runs his tranny van [diesel engine] on cooking oil, and has done so for the last year. i know he does because ive seen it with my own eyes. so your sad attempt at calling me a liar has failed pet. im sure that your hubby does have his own business doing things with oil, but a tranny van will run on flora. as will any diesel engine.

Yeah..SVO will work on older diesel engines but the newer engines i.e. after 2002 are mostly CRD – far more sensitive to fuel change and thus the probability of severe damage.
On the even newer diesel engines..there are things called diesel particulate filters which will NOT operate on straight veg oil.
The only thing that can be used on all of these is well-produced bio diesel.
Furthermore, should methanol, soaps or lye remain present in badly reacted bio diesel..this will also cause serious damage to the more modern engine.
So go ahead..pour in the Flora..and if y’all have a Lucas fuel pump then prepare to take out a bank loan to repair the damage to your engine.

i didnt say i run any vehicle, so i wont be going ahead as you suggest. my mate does run his van on cooking oil, [mixed with diesel] and will continue to do so. i have a duel fuel car. petrol and mpg. its clean and economical as well as being eco friendly. im sure your hubby does wonders with his bio fuels. but what will be done when the third world is starved off because corn and wheat acerage is killed off in favour of oil seed rape ? very bio friendly im sure. but humanity friendly ? not so convinced.

Do I take it you mean LPG? Yes, our friends run their Range Rover on it very successfully. However, my DH doesn’t use straight forward vegetable oil – rather -WASTE vegetable oil which has been used previously in canteens and restaurants. As this oil has already been utilised, DH is providing a necessary service in taking this waste and re-processing it rather than it going to landfill. Shockingly, hundreds of thousands of gallons of the stuff goes to landfill every week.

i didnt know that ? i bow to your knowlege there.
my friend uses used oil,i dont know where he gets it from but it realy smells of dirt n fish. its awful if you are behind his van on a bike it chokes you.