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Alternative energy isnt a real alternative not in this country
I’ve been running my car on 5% biodiesel blend for over a year now but after today I’m going back to 100% fossil-fuel diesel!
Re. the earlier toys / pram interface earlier on, it shows how factional wars start. I mean, the two of us were in agreement about biodiesel and renewable energy, the war was started over a disagreement about the safety of commercially available DIY biodiesel processors. But these things mus be subject to safety tests before they are allowed to be sold and people using them need to know what they’re doing – just like with chainsaws, electric welders, pottery kilns or a whole host of other gadgets that are can be bought for home use.
Also – and I admit I might be wrong on this – I believe that some German designed diesel engines are designed to run on pure, non-transesterified veg-oil without damage. The oil still needs filtering, obviously, but no further treatment.
But put it in a Renault, Land Rover, Peugeot, Vauxhall or a Ford (even one built in Germany) and you’re asking for gummed up injectors and a very big bill, though. Don’t try at home, seek further advice re law as well as possible damage!!!!
or wood burners if we mined the sawdust ?
I also seem to remember reading that some early work as done on making diesel engines run on finely powdered coal dust. I’m talking about large, slow-revving stationary engines, not ones in vehicles. Fine, dry sawdust would probably work in one of these old engines too, but injecting a powder in accurate amounts under high pressure is probably more difficult than with a liquid.
Another snippet for tekkies is that someome is working on a 6-stroke (yes six stroke) diesel/steam engine. The first 4 strokes of the cycle are the normal diesel cycle of suck-squeeze-bang-blow, On the 5th stroke another injector injects water into the cylinder, which instantly turns to steam and pushes the piston down again, while the 6th stroke drives the steam out again. The idea is use a closed loop condensing system with no water loss.
The biggest snag is apparently contamination of the water by engine oil and vice versa.Fluid bed technology for burning coal… invented by …. yeah us.. used by …. well not us though the environmentally astute Swedes use it
interesting stuff guys
@esmeralda wrote:
@waspish wrote:
ive read in a couple of my hubbys science mag, that a lot of the global warming propaganda machine is about raising taxes. and little to do with the environment. i have read that a lot of scientists say that the earth has always been warming, and that there is little or nothing we can do about it. now im not agreeing with these veiws, and i do re cycle and have bought a l.p.g car because it is a lot cheaper, and cleaner to run than petrol or diesel. but a lot of people are now running their diesel cars on cooking oil. and as a biker i can tell you for a fact, that these cars spew out a lot of smoke, choking black dirty smoke, this cant be doing the environment any good. and before long the chancellor will slap a massive tax on cooking oil. so itwil cost a fiver to fil the chip pan. oil is now past its peak availability, and it can only become more expensive, the russians have staked a flag on the bottom of the arctic. so there will be a race on soon to grab the arctic and turn it into a giant oil refinary, that is if we dont all get nuked in the war for the land.
Global Warming is indeed nowt but a pocket-picking justification for governments worldwide, but as for your cooking oil commentary..the only black dirty smoke that’s spewing, is the stuff coming out of your rear end along with your brains.
In order for a car engine to run in perpetuation through means of cooking oil..that oil has first to be cleaned, filtered, purified, and chemically altered by a number of lengthy and considered processes. It takes weeks and often months, to build a bio-diesel processor and one has to deal with the legalities of tax and waste refuse certification.
My husband runs his own bio-diesel operation. Your notion of us scooting around on a pan of chip-fat is as laughable as it is ill-informed. As those eejits who may have tried that very thing will have found once their car-engines seize up fifty miles into their journeys.
And as a biker..I can tell YOU that for a fact.Sorry but i beg to differ, oneof my best mates runs his tranny van [diesel engine] on cooking oil, and has done so for the last year. i know he does because ive seen it with my own eyes. so your sad attempt at calling me a liar has failed pet. im sure that your hubby does have his own business doing things with oil, but a tranny van will run on flora. as will any diesel engine.
@waspish wrote:
@esmeralda wrote:
@waspish wrote:
ive read in a couple of my hubbys science mag, that a lot of the global warming propaganda machine is about raising taxes. and little to do with the environment. i have read that a lot of scientists say that the earth has always been warming, and that there is little or nothing we can do about it. now im not agreeing with these veiws, and i do re cycle and have bought a l.p.g car because it is a lot cheaper, and cleaner to run than petrol or diesel. but a lot of people are now running their diesel cars on cooking oil. and as a biker i can tell you for a fact, that these cars spew out a lot of smoke, choking black dirty smoke, this cant be doing the environment any good. and before long the chancellor will slap a massive tax on cooking oil. so itwil cost a fiver to fil the chip pan. oil is now past its peak availability, and it can only become more expensive, the russians have staked a flag on the bottom of the arctic. so there will be a race on soon to grab the arctic and turn it into a giant oil refinary, that is if we dont all get nuked in the war for the land.
Global Warming is indeed nowt but a pocket-picking justification for governments worldwide, but as for your cooking oil commentary..the only black dirty smoke that’s spewing, is the stuff coming out of your rear end along with your brains.
In order for a car engine to run in perpetuation through means of cooking oil..that oil has first to be cleaned, filtered, purified, and chemically altered by a number of lengthy and considered processes. It takes weeks and often months, to build a bio-diesel processor and one has to deal with the legalities of tax and waste refuse certification.
My husband runs his own bio-diesel operation. Your notion of us scooting around on a pan of chip-fat is as laughable as it is ill-informed. As those eejits who may have tried that very thing will have found once their car-engines seize up fifty miles into their journeys.
And as a biker..I can tell YOU that for a fact.Sorry but i beg to differ, oneof my best mates runs his tranny van [diesel engine] on cooking oil, and has done so for the last year. i know he does because ive seen it with my own eyes. so your sad attempt at calling me a liar has failed pet. im sure that your hubby does have his own business doing things with oil, but a tranny van will run on flora. as will any diesel engine.
Yeah..SVO will work on older diesel engines but the newer engines i.e. after 2002 are mostly CRD – far more sensitive to fuel change and thus the probability of severe damage.
On the even newer diesel engines..there are things called diesel particulate filters which will NOT operate on straight veg oil.
The only thing that can be used on all of these is well-produced bio diesel.
Furthermore, should methanol, soaps or lye remain present in badly reacted bio diesel..this will also cause serious damage to the more modern engine.
So go ahead..pour in the Flora..and if y’all have a Lucas fuel pump then prepare to take out a bank loan to repair the damage to your engine.
@bassingbourne55 wrote:
For a long time people were in denial about the change in the property market, saying things like “house prices never go down, they might just stop going up” and “after all, there’s a housing shortage and everybody has to live somewhere”.
We had a property slump before and now we have another one and people are gradually becoming aware of how bad it might become, with talk of 50% falls in prices. Buyers are finding it difficult to get mortgages but they are also probably staying away in the belief that houses will be cheaper in a few months.
Now we’re told there’s a recession on the way and sales of 4x4s are down by 50% (Independent, Friday) as fuel prices rise. And here is where I detect another case of denial. People seem convinced that high fuel tax and a manipulated oil price are the problem. That might be partly the case but I think we are at the end of cheap fuel as growing worldwide demand collides with increasing difficulty in meeting that demand as reserves begin to dwindle. I’ve said for ages that global warming was a red herring and the real environmenatl crisis, as far as civilisation goes, is finite resources running out.
As far as housing is concerned it was inevitable, lets face it a £100,000 + mortgage is out of most peoples reach anyway.
recession? every few years we go through a recession, to be honest im kinda glad credit is hard to get, its been far too easy in the past and now companies seem to be coming to their senses and vetting people more.
Global warming? the end of the world is nigh!!!! :? prepares sandwich board and puts a good pair of marching up and down the high street shoes on……..
@esmeralda wrote:
@waspish wrote:
@esmeralda wrote:
@waspish wrote:
ive read in a couple of my hubbys science mag, that a lot of the global warming propaganda machine is about raising taxes. and little to do with the environment. i have read that a lot of scientists say that the earth has always been warming, and that there is little or nothing we can do about it. now im not agreeing with these veiws, and i do re cycle and have bought a l.p.g car because it is a lot cheaper, and cleaner to run than petrol or diesel. but a lot of people are now running their diesel cars on cooking oil. and as a biker i can tell you for a fact, that these cars spew out a lot of smoke, choking black dirty smoke, this cant be doing the environment any good. and before long the chancellor will slap a massive tax on cooking oil. so itwil cost a fiver to fil the chip pan. oil is now past its peak availability, and it can only become more expensive, the russians have staked a flag on the bottom of the arctic. so there will be a race on soon to grab the arctic and turn it into a giant oil refinary, that is if we dont all get nuked in the war for the land.
Global Warming is indeed nowt but a pocket-picking justification for governments worldwide, but as for your cooking oil commentary..the only black dirty smoke that’s spewing, is the stuff coming out of your rear end along with your brains.
In order for a car engine to run in perpetuation through means of cooking oil..that oil has first to be cleaned, filtered, purified, and chemically altered by a number of lengthy and considered processes. It takes weeks and often months, to build a bio-diesel processor and one has to deal with the legalities of tax and waste refuse certification.
My husband runs his own bio-diesel operation. Your notion of us scooting around on a pan of chip-fat is as laughable as it is ill-informed. As those eejits who may have tried that very thing will have found once their car-engines seize up fifty miles into their journeys.
And as a biker..I can tell YOU that for a fact.Sorry but i beg to differ, oneof my best mates runs his tranny van [diesel engine] on cooking oil, and has done so for the last year. i know he does because ive seen it with my own eyes. so your sad attempt at calling me a liar has failed pet. im sure that your hubby does have his own business doing things with oil, but a tranny van will run on flora. as will any diesel engine.
Yeah..SVO will work on older diesel engines but the newer engines i.e. after 2002 are mostly CRD – far more sensitive to fuel change and thus the probability of severe damage.
On the even newer diesel engines..there are things called diesel particulate filters which will NOT operate on straight veg oil.
The only thing that can be used on all of these is well-produced bio diesel.
Furthermore, should methanol, soaps or lye remain present in badly reacted bio diesel..this will also cause serious damage to the more modern engine.
So go ahead..pour in the Flora..and if y’all have a Lucas fuel pump then prepare to take out a bank loan to repair the damage to your engine.
i didnt say i run any vehicle, so i wont be going ahead as you suggest. my mate does run his van on cooking oil, [mixed with diesel] and will continue to do so. i have a duel fuel car. petrol and mpg. its clean and economical as well as being eco friendly. im sure your hubby does wonders with his bio fuels. but what will be done when the third world is starved off because corn and wheat acerage is killed off in favour of oil seed rape ? very bio friendly im sure. but humanity friendly ? not so convinced.
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