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For a long time people were in denial about the change in the property market, saying things like “house prices never go down, they might just stop going up” and “after all, there’s a housing shortage and everybody has to live somewhere”.
We had a property slump before and now we have another one and people are gradually becoming aware of how bad it might become, with talk of 50% falls in prices. Buyers are finding it difficult to get mortgages but they are also probably staying away in the belief that houses will be cheaper in a few months.
Now we’re told there’s a recession on the way and sales of 4x4s are down by 50% (Independent, Friday) as fuel prices rise. And here is where I detect another case of denial. People seem convinced that high fuel tax and a manipulated oil price are the problem. That might be partly the case but I think we are at the end of cheap fuel as growing worldwide demand collides with increasing difficulty in meeting that demand as reserves begin to dwindle. I’ve said for ages that global warming was a red herring and the real environmenatl crisis, as far as civilisation goes, is finite resources running out.
I’m not too sure about global warming being a red herring as you describe it to be. You only need to look at climate change to realise that. We have continous floods in various countries across the world as well as other natural disasters which scientists have blamed on global warming, and everybody knows that the ice caps are melting. Unless everyone stops driving etc.. and starts recycling more I can’t see the problem improving either.
ive read in a couple of my hubbys science mag, that a lot of the global warming propaganda machine is about raising taxes. and little to do with the environment. i have read that a lot of scientists say that the earth has always been warming, and that there is little or nothing we can do about it. now im not agreeing with these veiws, and i do re cycle and have bought a l.p.g car because it is a lot cheaper, and cleaner to run than petrol or diesel. but a lot of people are now running their diesel cars on cooking oil. and as a biker i can tell you for a fact, that these cars spew out a lot of smoke, choking black dirty smoke, this cant be doing the environment any good. and before long the chancellor will slap a massive tax on cooking oil. so itwil cost a fiver to fil the chip pan. oil is now past its peak availability, and it can only become more expensive, the russians have staked a flag on the bottom of the arctic. so there will be a race on soon to grab the arctic and turn it into a giant oil refinary, that is if we dont all get nuked in the war for the land.
@waspish wrote:
ive read in a couple of my hubbys science mag, that a lot of the global warming propaganda machine is about raising taxes. and little to do with the environment. i have read that a lot of scientists say that the earth has always been warming, and that there is little or nothing we can do about it. now im not agreeing with these veiws, and i do re cycle and have bought a l.p.g car because it is a lot cheaper, and cleaner to run than petrol or diesel. but a lot of people are now running their diesel cars on cooking oil. and as a biker i can tell you for a fact, that these cars spew out a lot of smoke, choking black dirty smoke, this cant be doing the environment any good. and before long the chancellor will slap a massive tax on cooking oil. so itwil cost a fiver to fil the chip pan. oil is now past its peak availability, and it can only become more expensive, the russians have staked a flag on the bottom of the arctic. so there will be a race on soon to grab the arctic and turn it into a giant oil refinary, that is if we dont all get nuked in the war for the land.
Global Warming is indeed nowt but a pocket-picking justification for governments worldwide, but as for your cooking oil commentary..the only black dirty smoke that’s spewing, is the stuff coming out of your rear end along with your brains.
In order for a car engine to run in perpetuation through means of cooking oil..that oil has first to be cleaned, filtered, purified, and chemically altered by a number of lengthy and considered processes. It takes weeks and often months, to build a bio-diesel processor and one has to deal with the legalities of tax and waste refuse certification.
My husband runs his own bio-diesel operation. Your notion of us scooting around on a pan of chip-fat is as laughable as it is ill-informed. As those eejits who may have tried that very thing will have found once their car-engines seize up fifty miles into their journeys.
And as a biker..I can tell YOU that for a fact.It takes weeks and often months, to build a bio-diesel processor and one has to deal with the legalities of tax and waste refuse certification.
Or spend £975 on one of these:
http://www.etruk.com/attachments/Image/etruk50mk2.jpgAre global temperatures still rising? All the hard statistics on this seemed to go quiet about 2 years ago. I know a couple of cool summers in UK is only part of the picture, but a year or two of cooler global temperatures will reduce the general trend.
Theres nothing we can do about global warming except stop accelerating it. If the ice melts were in big trouble. Sure the governments are using it as an excuse to raise more taxation money that doesnt say it isnt happening or that we have to allow it to get out of hand
@bassingbourne55 wrote:
It takes weeks and often months, to build a bio-diesel processor and one has to deal with the legalities of tax and waste refuse certification.
Or spend £975 on one of these:
http://www.etruk.com/attachments/Image/etruk50mk2.jpgThese contraptions are so dangerous that they are known on the bio-diesel circuit as ‘E-bay Bombs.’ If you’re looking for a cheaper way to blow yourself up, just sign up for the jihad. :evil:
The problem with the global warming thing is that burning fossil fuels MIGHT be causing it or adding to it. But no definite link has been proved, we might just having an effect the same as smoking a cigarette next to a flame thrower.
If all the ice caps do melt, it’s true, we are in deep dog doo-doo. But if sea-ice melts, it has no net effect on sea levels as it’s already floating on the sea.
Sea levels have risen about 150 metres since the end of the last ice age about 20,000 years ago, and would rise by another 80 metres if the rest of the ice caps melt. But this process has been going on over this period, which is long in terms of the history of civilisation, but remarkably short in geological terms. There is growing archaeological evidence of human habitation being found from what is now the North Sea but was mostly dry land only 500 generations ago.
These contraptions are so dangerous that they are known on the bio-diesel circuit as ‘E-bay Bombs.’ If you’re looking for a cheaper way to blow yourself up, just sign up for the jihad.
No more so than a car battery (have you seen one of those explode? I have – luckily with no injury!), or an oxygen cylinder or even a jerrycan of petrol.
And has been accelerating over the past ten years. We are contributing to global warming just no one knows what the climatic changes might be, wetter, warmer, indeed even much colder are all possibilities. Yes it’s also a natural phenomenon and we can choose to ignore it because there is no scientific measure as to how much we are contribution after all the human race is arrogant
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