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  • #460740

    They produce a fine wine so ive heard :-k

    #460741

    Lets hope the justice they serve is as fine shall we ? :-

    #460742

    @panda12 wrote:

    LOL Gaz!

    Not ducking out your side of the bargin are you?

    Seems like it!

    You don’t have a clue, do you?

    All mouth as per usual.

    Let me be precise, i mean evidence, not fuzzy pictures with no time stamp, not half baked affidavits which contradict, not lies from a money making policy spinning spineless ex primeminister, not undated/timed cctv footage but. . . true, worthy,concrete evidence, the type that would stand up to a proper public enquiry in front of a jury, like the type that has been refused to the relatives of the deceased. Now putting aside the silly remark about bargains, when you produce concrete evidence for me to view, then you will have a response and, i am big enough to admit being mistaken Madam !

    #460743

    @gazlan wrote:

    @panda12 wrote:

    LOL Gaz!

    Not ducking out your side of the bargin are you?

    Seems like it!

    You don’t have a clue, do you?

    All mouth as per usual.

    Let me be precise, i mean evidence, not fuzzy pictures with no time stamp, not half baked affidavits which contradict, not lies from a money making policy spinning spineless ex primeminister, not undated/timed cctv footage but. . . true, worthy,concrete evidence, the type that would stand up to a proper public enquiry in front of a jury, like the type that has been refused to the relatives of the deceased. Now putting aside the silly remark about bargains, when you produce concrete evidence for me to view, then you will have a response and, i am big enough to admit being mistaken Madam !

    You wanna be careful Gaz – all that ducking and diving is making you look like a great, big, drip.

    It’s you with the half baked theories. Still when you got nothing better to do all day (like earn a wage and contribute to the economy) you can sit on your a rse and dream up conspiracy crap.

    Personally, I believe the survivors who witnessed the cowardly scumbags detonating the bombs and were able to identify them.

    Funny how the familes of the accused haven’t kicked up a fuss about their loved ones being wrongly accused, isn’t it?

    Instead, they knew the truth and accepted it – what was left of the the bus bomber was actually buired by his own family: http://www.thefreelibrary.com/7%2F7+suicide+bus+bomb+teen+buried%3B+EXCLUSIVE.-a0138254165

    You can’t provide me with any evidence Gaz because there isn’t any, not even in your cloud cuckoo land.

    #460744

    @panda12 wrote:

    @gazlan wrote:

    You wanna be careful Gaz – all that ducking and diving is making you look like a great, big, drip.

    It’s you with the half baked theories. Still when you got nothing better to do all day (like earn a wage and contribute to the economy) you can sit on your a rse and dream up conspiracy crap.

    Personally, I believe the survivors who witnessed the cowardly scumbags detonating the bombs and were able to identify them.

    Funny how the familes of the accused haven’t kicked up a fuss about their loved ones being wrongly accused, isn’t it?

    Instead, they knew the truth and accepted it – what was left of the the bus bomber was actually buired by his own family: http://www.thefreelibrary.com/7%2F7+suicide+bus+bomb+teen+buried%3B+EXCLUSIVE.-a0138254165

    You can’t provide me with any evidence Gaz because there isn’t any, not even in your cloud cuckoo land.

    The numerous flaws, inconsistencies, speculation and lack of evidence in the Home Office report most certainly need to be publicised which is why J7 campaigns for these to be clarified, and for all the evidence to be released. J7 do not refer to the suspects as ‘bombers’ for this very reason. The contention is not that the suspects are innocent because the state committed the attack instead; the contention is that the state has thus far failed to prove its own hypothesis under the tenets of its own system of law in which anyone charged or accused of a crime is held to be “innocent until proven guilty”.
    Fortunately, there are many many people out there that can actually think for themselves. This involves but is not limited to, being able to assess what is available to the public, people like you that tow the line regardless will always be in the dark, polish your glow stick and read what others have to say here
    As far as your comment that Islamic extremists carried out this attack, i will ask you again, show me the concrete proof. I need not produce anything, i simply ask you to support what you post. Don’t try and mask your inability through personal insult.

    #460745

    I need not produce anything,

    That’s because you can’t. You cannot produce any evidence whatsoever that the 7/7 bombings were not the work of four Islamic extremists:

    Mohammad Sidique Khan
    Shehzad Tanweer
    Germaine Lindsay
    Hasib Mir Hussain

    Your dislike and criticism for everything British clouds and impairs your judgement even in the face of overwhelming evidence and eye witness statements.

    Tell me Gaz – could you confidently and 100% look this survivor in the eye and tell him he’s a liar:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/nov/08/7-7-inquest-terrorist-detonated-bomb

    #460746

    No i wouldn’t tell him he’s a liar, i would suggest to him that perhaps he was mistaken. What people may see or think they see cannot, must not and should not be used as a method to prove guilt without concrete supporting evidence.

    Here are just some of the many many anomolies with evidence produced.

    Survivor John Tulloch

    In this extract from his book, he claims the explosion happened at 8.56 and that the ‘bomber’ was standing in the doorway of the train, contrary to both the official report and Danny Biddle’s witness accounts:
    But it was still only 8.56 by my watch, so I eased back into the seat because it was too early to get up. That action saved my life because I was now sitting only three feet from the suicide bomber standing in that doorway. Had I been standing, there would have been nothing but air between me and the bomb. And three seconds later, it happened.

    Survivor Danny Biddle

    “He was sitting by the first door of the train and I was standing about 10ft away. I noticed him reaching into his bag and he didn’t say or do anything. He wasn’t agitated or fidgety, he was very calm. He looked at me and looked around the carriage. Then he pulled some sort of cord.”
    “I started to text a colleague, and realised I had missed my usual station. As we pulled into Edgware Road, I looked around me. There was a middle-aged man wearing glasses with lots of paperwork around him, and a youngish-looking Asian guy sitting on the empty seat next to me.

    The British Justice system is one of the worlds most revered and duplicated systems in the world, the fact that those responsible for it’s delivery and accuracy at times fail completely to deliver it without flaw, cannot go without a critical response.

    If you give the same respect to the views of some of those now seeking to have that incident reviewed independently and publicly as much as you appear to give the Government with their ” official narrative “, you might become aware of just how many inconsistencies there are with it. Now was Mr Khan seated or standing?

    Your dislike and criticism for everything British

    I love this country, my country. . . I will work endlessly with the means at my disposal to bring about it’s return to the once civil and decent country it was. I will never subscribe to the system now in place that has continued to decimate what you and your sort claim to be democracy, yet are so enslaved by it you wouldn’t know freedom if it slapped your face and pulled your pants down!

    #460747

    So there is an anomaly as to whether this bomber was sitting or standing!

    That really smacks of conspiracy doesn’t it? :roll:

    Tell me, are there inconsistencies as to the identity of the bombers?

    For instance, those that survived the bus bomb identified Hasib Mir Hussain as the bomber and those on the trains recognised the other respective bombers from pictures.

    So are you saying the bombings were carried out by people other than the four identified?

    If so, where are those four now? Are they dead, blown to bits by their own bombs and missed by their loved ones or are they walking around somewhere quite happy to be accused of the 7/7 bombings with their families happy to endorse this?

    If you believe they were the bombers, and are now dead then the 7/7 bombings were carried out by Islamic extremists. Their trail leads back to bomb factories in Leeds, bomb training in Pakistan. End of.

    I love this country, my country. . . I will work endlessly with the means at my disposal to bring about it’s return to the once civil and decent country it was.

    And when exactly was this “golden age” when this country was civil and decent?

    When Richard I was busy slaughtering Muslims in the Holy Land during The Crusades?

    When it was raping and pillaging other countries to build up its Empire?

    When it was burning heretics?

    When it indulged in slavery?

    The irony is, this country is far more civil and decent in this century than it ever has been.

    PS – your work endlessly comment is priceless – working endlessly from the comfort of your own armchair!

    #460748

    @panda12 wrote:

    Blardy-blah !!

    What is lacking in the “ investigation “ is any concrete evidence that these acts were carried out by these men.
    When we have a Government official narrative so full of inconsistencies we must consider why that is.
    Now I will agree that it appears these four men were in London on that day, however, despite the thousands of cameras,
    there is not a single picture of them boarding the vehicles, on the platforms and the only clear footage released is from
    the purported “ dummy run “. Now how can this be possible?
    The cameras on the bus were in-operative, likewise the cameras on the trains or at least we have seen no footage.

    It is my opinion that the “ security service “ have been involved with this more than they care to mention,
    this being so, scenarios have been alluded to by various people that this indeed was a set-up operation where-by
    the “ bombers “ were duped into the taking part of the operation. Given the recent admissions regarding information from
    the informant “ Babar “ and his involvement with “ agents “, we can see that various events have taken place in the
    background.

    While I agree that sources have placed Khan in connection with various “ terror “ suspects, what they have failed to do
    Is provide answers to many questions that would prove beyond a reasonable doubt, just what occurred that day.
    I don’t propose to discuss the whole event here suffice to say, as far as I am concerned, the Government and Judiciary
    have failed to provide indisputable evidence that these four men were responsible for that incident. Some have suggested
    that the trial of these men has been no better than a media trial.

    working endlessly from the comfort of your own armchair!

    Sofa bed if you will . . .

    #460749

    Sofa bed if you will . . .

    An Ikea one at that . . :P

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