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@pete wrote:
and why are the rich and famous held in such esteem and the poor and homeless kicked in the teeth Amy, Keith Moon, Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix what great people what wonderful examples look at them the norty sods smashed up a hotel the little scamps oh how we laughed, what they’ve died well lets just make them even more famous lets praise them shout of them from the rooftops
Who does that?
I do. Fantastic examples of humanity, I reckon. Each and everyone of them. The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long, and all that.
Stuff it i give up
Are you sure? You don’t fancy one last try at whipping up some hysterical vilification?
@*Sian wrote:
Pat you are talking about people who go out on the weekend and drop copious amounts of drugs then probably don’t even have a tickle in the week, these people could become addicts but nobody would be able to tell which ones would and wouldn’t.
I smoke and drink, I am still an addict in some way, my mum feels for me smoking the way I do, she has been stopped for years, I manage it for a while ( longest 2 years) but I struggled for the whole 2 years, :roll: :lol: I think I have an addictive nature, anything I do regular enough I become addicted :lol: :oops:
Everyone has the right to their own thoughts but a bit of compassion can go along way 8)
Look, this isn’t really about compassion or not having compassion. In a nutshell. it’s about so-called ‘celebrity’ addicts being lauded, admired, feted – whilst Jo Bloggs addict is mocked, jeered and derided.
I’m addicted to morphine..insofar as I can’t stop it without horrendous withdrawal symptoms. Every so often, the toxins build up in my system, my kidneys pack in blah blah blah. The worst thing is the hallucinations, and the worst of those in January 2006, were so foul and debauched and overwhelmingly terrifying, that weeks later I remember swearing that never again would I blame an addict for doing whatever..WHATEVER it took to get a fix. So I DO understand, and I know how easy it is to become addicted. It’s just neither big nor clever, that’s all.@pete wrote:
Amy and George werent driven by inner demons to be addicts either and i’d rather they werent and hadnt been, so i dont get the wishing harm on them. It’s their rich and famous life style and not inner demons that caused it though. Do we extend this sympathy to others who cant help it are driven to it, serial killers for example arent they driven by inner demons. It’s a lack of sympathy for their escape route not the reasons for the need to escape and thats for the few who do genuinly need to escape not those who choose to live the rock and roll lifestyle
As for George how do the friends and family of his donor feel nowthey probably feel they gave someone a chance of life
maybe they dont know who got it, i have no idea
it could have gone to any anonomous alcoholic who may have done exactly the same
but as sian said and I have saidwalk a mile in their shoes before you judge
and unless you have no one can persuade me they have any idea what its like to be an addict
@esmeralda wrote:
Look, this isn’t really about compassion or not having compassion. In a nutshell. it’s about so-called ‘celebrity’ addicts being lauded, admired, feted – whilst Jo Bloggs addict is mocked, jeered and derided.
I’m addicted to morphine..insofar as I can’t stop it without horrendous withdrawal symptoms. Every so often, the toxins build up in my system, my kidneys pack in blah blah blah. The worst thing is the hallucinations, and the worst of those in January 2006, were so foul and debauched and overwhelmingly terrifying, that weeks later I remember swearing that never again would I blame an addict for doing whatever..WHATEVER it took to get a fix. So I DO understand, and I know how easy it is to become addicted. It’s just neither big nor clever, that’s all.Exactly Esme. Which was my point about if you have enough celebrity status and money, it somehow makes it ok, makes you more of a cause, It doesn’t of course.
My GP, has recently given me medication which contains morphine because of the severe pain I have now, so I completely understand what your saying about it. The last time I had it was following the surgery I had…..One part of me is terrified of becoming addicted to it,,,,but then my entire body is screaming in such pain, that it’s the only thing stops it. I do take it, but I try to manage on the other quite strong painkillers he’s also given me, which don’t contain morphine, don’t completely stop the pain, but helps.
@esmeralda wrote:
@*Sian wrote:
Pat you are talking about people who go out on the weekend and drop copious amounts of drugs then probably don’t even have a tickle in the week, these people could become addicts but nobody would be able to tell which ones would and wouldn’t.
I smoke and drink, I am still an addict in some way, my mum feels for me smoking the way I do, she has been stopped for years, I manage it for a while ( longest 2 years) but I struggled for the whole 2 years, :roll: :lol: I think I have an addictive nature, anything I do regular enough I become addicted :lol: :oops:
Everyone has the right to their own thoughts but a bit of compassion can go along way 8)
Look, this isn’t really about compassion or not having compassion. In a nutshell. it’s about so-called ‘celebrity’ addicts being lauded, admired, feted – whilst Jo Bloggs addict is mocked, jeered and derided.
I’m addicted to morphine..insofar as I can’t stop it without horrendous withdrawal symptoms. Every so often, the toxins build up in my system, my kidneys pack in blah blah blah. The worst thing is the hallucinations, and the worst of those in January 2006, were so foul and debauched and overwhelmingly terrifying, that weeks later I remember swearing that never again would I blame an addict for doing whatever..WHATEVER it took to get a fix. So I DO understand, and I know how easy it is to become addicted. It’s just neither big nor clever, that’s all.I admire Amy Winehouse for her talent not for her addictions, I don’t think she is big nor clever, I just feel for the situation she has gotten herself into as I do for the joe bloggs. I work along side addicts and they come from all walks of life, some well to do some not.
In my eyes all deserve a little compassion.Your addiction is no fault of your own, unlike Amy Winehouse who chose to start on the downhill spiral of drugs but I have the same amount of compassion for both situations.
@cas wrote:
@esmeralda wrote:
Look, this isn’t really about compassion or not having compassion. In a nutshell. it’s about so-called ‘celebrity’ addicts being lauded, admired, feted – whilst Jo Bloggs addict is mocked, jeered and derided.
I’m addicted to morphine..insofar as I can’t stop it without horrendous withdrawal symptoms. Every so often, the toxins build up in my system, my kidneys pack in blah blah blah. The worst thing is the hallucinations, and the worst of those in January 2006, were so foul and debauched and overwhelmingly terrifying, that weeks later I remember swearing that never again would I blame an addict for doing whatever..WHATEVER it took to get a fix. So I DO understand, and I know how easy it is to become addicted. It’s just neither big nor clever, that’s all.Exactly Esme. Which was my point about if you have enough celebrity status and money, it somehow makes it ok, makes you more of a cause, It doesn’t of course.
My GP, has recently given me medication which contains morphine because of the severe pain I have now, so I completely understand what your saying about it. The last time I had it was following the surgery I had…..One part of me is terrified of becoming addicted to it,,,,but then my entire body is screaming in such pain, that it’s the only thing stops it. I do take it, but I try to manage on the other quite strong painkillers he’s also given me, which don’t contain morphine, don’t completely stop the pain, but helps.
@esmeralda wrote:
@cas wrote:
@esmeralda wrote:
Look, this isn’t really about compassion or not having compassion. In a nutshell. it’s about so-called ‘celebrity’ addicts being lauded, admired, feted – whilst Jo Bloggs addict is mocked, jeered and derided.
I’m addicted to morphine..insofar as I can’t stop it without horrendous withdrawal symptoms. Every so often, the toxins build up in my system, my kidneys pack in blah blah blah. The worst thing is the hallucinations, and the worst of those in January 2006, were so foul and debauched and overwhelmingly terrifying, that weeks later I remember swearing that never again would I blame an addict for doing whatever..WHATEVER it took to get a fix. So I DO understand, and I know how easy it is to become addicted. It’s just neither big nor clever, that’s all.Exactly Esme. Which was my point about if you have enough celebrity status and money, it somehow makes it ok, makes you more of a cause, It doesn’t of course.
My GP, has recently given me medication which contains morphine because of the severe pain I have now, so I completely understand what your saying about it. The last time I had it was following the surgery I had…..One part of me is terrified of becoming addicted to it,,,,but then my entire body is screaming in such pain, that it’s the only thing stops it. I do take it, but I try to manage on the other quite strong painkillers he’s also given me, which don’t contain morphine, don’t completely stop the pain, but helps.
Right back at you Esme xxx
Wish I knew how to do that,,,i’ll have to take a look at imageshack : )
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