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13 September, 2008 at 1:08 am #370672
sheest.. surely im not asking for folks to PAY !
I kinda asked folks to not sit here.
i love the wee bit charlie, and the need to smile !
/SNIFFS.
13 September, 2008 at 1:25 am #370673All addicts have self destruct buttons.
They don’t care about anything else apart from where their next drink or fix is coming from.
They don’t care about their families, friends, loved ones etc. They are destructive. They destroy themselves first and foremost, but they also destroy their nearest and dearest.
If anyone who is an addict really cared more for their wives, lovers, children, parents, friends, than they did themselves, they would give up their addiction.
13 September, 2008 at 4:39 am #370674Sian and Pebbles I applaud you
I have read every word of your educated posts and agreed with them
your understanding shines through with every sentence
You have said everything I would like to say, but so much better
and for that reason I have just read and not commentedI would not wish a destructive addiction on my worst enemy
its a living death
it consumes your every waking moment
it destroys people around you
it is with you constantly
it sits on your shoulder and mocks you
it waits for that moment of weakness
so it can take hold again
and the only way you can stop that pain
even if only for a little while
is to succumb
to say to yourself
this is the last time
never again!
and for a short while you have a form of oblivion
and you contemplate what would be best for those you are hurting
your death?
you sit there with the paracetamol or the razor blade as you are coming out of it and think
Shall I?
The pain will then be over
but what about those you leave behind?
No!!!!
You cannot do it to them!
Tomorrow you will stop and everything will be alright
but
just for tonight
to get you through those demons
you will have another …Money has nothing to do with it
White Lightening is £2 for 2 litres
Thats the poorer persons choice
It does the same job
The amount of money you have only decides what form you take your ‘medication’ in
The only difference between a well known addict and an anonymous one are the photographs that appear in the papers
their suffering is exactly the same
‘but they can afford rehab’ you bleat
AA and NA are free
and available to everyone
but does every ‘poor’ person go?One thing re hab does is keep you off it
for a while
but then , when you are released back into the real world,
there it is
sat on your shoulder,
waiting..
for the rest of your lifeNever compare getting off cigarettes to those of other addictions
spouting things you have read
‘Its harder to beat smoking !’
I have read the same articles
Smokers hurt no one but themselves and use this to justify starting up again
thats why its harder to stay off them
Watch a heroin addict do cold turkey
or an alcoholic go through the DTs
then say that
but getting off drugs is the easy part
staying off them is another thingI hope I havent bored you
but this is something close to my heart5
13 September, 2008 at 6:22 am #370675very well said bon =D> =D> =D>
13 September, 2008 at 8:24 am #370676Close your own eyes for a moment, imagine someone female that you love is standing in front of you. Can you see them?
What if inside your loved one, they are carrying enough torment and hurt and pain, so much so that you can never reach them. Can you see them still? How do they look? For now they look like they always did, the same smiling, happy person. Can you see them?
Imagine 2 days from now you are standing over the bed of your loved one, in a ward, in a hospital. Can you see them there? You ask them why they do it, why they take the nasty evil drugs. Can you understand? You reach inside yourself for answers, wondering what it was that made them take it in the first place. Can you feel their pain?
You spend many days trying to help, trying to comprehend, trying to make sense of why someone would self-destruct in such a manner. Can you deal with that? In the end the reality hits you. Something inside the person you love, you care about, you want to pick up and hug them better, has made them become the wreck you see before you now. Can you cope?
Imagine that there are people around, just like you are right now, “Don’t touch them, then you wont become addicted.” “Smokers can give up, why cant she” “She should know better, she shouldn’t expect sympathy”. Do you hear it? You want to lash out at these people, they dont know your loved one, shes not a bad person. It hurts to hear that. Can you see your loved one still?
Everyone has a demon inside them, some demons are small, insignificant, and never cause any bother. Some demons are large, brutal and will destroy from the inside out. No matter how much care, love, help, support, therapy, the demon never goes away.
Amy has her demons, for reasons she only knows. Deep down inside that broken dishevelled person is a little girl crying out. Unable to express the reasons why she does the things she does to escape whatever is buried deep inside her. It’s easy to judge when the person isn’t someone you love.
13 September, 2008 at 9:11 am #370677@Baldy wrote:
Blah blah blah here’s a picture of a baby with a spliff.
@MardyPete wrote:
Here’s a picture of someone who takes drugs and they don’t look very well. Do you see? They don’t look very well!
Wonderfully argued, chaps. Don’t you think so, Pikey? I do, Pikey. What marvellous analytical insight you’ve each come up with. Fantastic examples of wit and scathing intelligence. Bravo.
13 September, 2008 at 9:15 am #370678And i have sympathy for the reason and the anguish but not for the method of easing that anguish. As for Amy or any other addict they all turned to drugs because of some deep seated emotional trauma ? rubbish most would be peer pressure and trying the next thing cause the last thing became boring the buzz just wasnt there anymore and once you’re addicted well you have a problem
As for the smoking thing my aunt died of lung cancer i rather think it affected people round her though she had emotional problems and reasons for those problems i was aware of and sympathised
Ive taken drugs not because i had some deep seated trauma in my life i couldnt face though, thankfully i didnt become an addict apart from the cigarettes i guess, and i’d wager most addicts fell into and werent driven by inner demons13 September, 2008 at 9:17 am #370679@cherrybomb wrote:
Close your own eyes for a moment, imagine someone female that you love is standing in front of you. Can you see them?
What if inside your loved one, they are carrying enough torment and hurt and pain, so much so that you can never reach them. Can you see them still? How do they look? For now they look like they always did, the same smiling, happy person. Can you see them?
Imagine 2 days from now you are standing over the bed of your loved one, in a ward, in a hospital. Can you see them there? You ask them why they do it, why they take the nasty evil drugs. Can you understand? You reach inside yourself for answers, wondering what it was that made them take it in the first place. Can you feel their pain?
You spend many days trying to help, trying to comprehend, trying to make sense of why someone would self-destruct in such a manner. Can you deal with that? In the end the reality hits you. Something inside the person you love, you care about, you want to pick up and hug them better, has made them become the wreck you see before you now. Can you cope?
Imagine that there are people around, just like you are right now, “Don’t touch them, then you wont become addicted.” “Smokers can give up, why cant she” “She should know better, she shouldn’t expect sympathy”. Do you hear it? You want to lash out at these people, they dont know your loved one, shes not a bad person. It hurts to hear that. Can you see your loved one still?
Everyone has a demon inside them, some demons are small, insignificant, and never cause any bother. Some demons are large, brutal and will destroy from the inside out. No matter how much care, love, help, support, therapy, the demon never goes away.
Amy has her demons, for reasons she only knows. Deep down inside that broken dishevelled person is a little girl crying out. Unable to express the reasons why she does the things she does to escape whatever is buried deep inside her. It’s easy to judge when the person isn’t someone you love.
God! thats so true…proper got me thinking then..which is rare for me on Saturday, after me Friday night binge
13 September, 2008 at 9:22 am #370680@pikey wrote:
@Baldy wrote:
Blah blah blah here’s a picture of a baby with a spliff.
@MardyPete wrote:
Here’s a picture of someone who takes drugs and they don’t look very well. Do you see? They don’t look very well!
Wonderfully argued, chaps. Don’t you think so, Pikey? I do, Pikey. What marvellous analytical insight you’ve each come up with. Fantastic examples of wit and scathing intelligence. Bravo.
Havent you got anything inherently dangerous to do to brighten up your life ?
13 September, 2008 at 9:27 am #370681Give me a pint of best bitter any day 8)
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