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@~Pebbles~ wrote:
@johnboy25 wrote:
But by reaching for that something extra they’re making it harder for themselves. I get the mickey taken out of me for being a non drinker and that’s fine.
What you don’t know is that another big reason why I don’t drink is cos I know I could very easily get addicted to it, that could easily become my ‘something extra’ that I reach for. I choose not to, it’s called self control.
And before anyone tries to be critical because of Amy’s circumstances, you know sod all about mine so you’re in no position to.
Fair enough, we’re all different. But if that’s the case then why are we even bothering to talk about it when the answer is staring us in the face?
Its all well and good saying you’ve got self control when you’re not addicted to any of these substances! Self control goes out of the window once you’re hooked, and theres not really a damn thing you can do about it. Some people are more susceptible to addictions, the term addictive personality is not a made up concept. Some people can drink heavily but can quit at the drop of a hat if they want to, and they do. Someone else in the same position cant. So unless you’ve been in a situation where you’ve been addicted and felt that you CANT give up, you cant possibly comment.
Well said Pebbles =D> =D>
I lost a very dear freind,,,,,11 years ago now, he tortured his body. No matter how many re-habs he went through he had that addictive personality. I can no more sympathise with Amy than I could or would him. I loved him dearly, he was a dear dear freind, but no one, forced that needle into his arm,,,,,he did that himself, as has she…..He knew my position on it, he loved me back as much,,,,thats a true freind.
@~Pebbles~ wrote:
what people need to remember is that an addict cant stop their behaviour…and were not just talking celebrities here, were also referring to normal everyday people who go through this. Its all very well looking down your nose at people and saying they brought it upon themselves, but unless you have actually been an addict of either drugs or alcohol, then you cant comment. And no, its not the same as experimenting, addiction goes far deeper, to the point that people cant focus on anything else. Some people on here seem to think that addicts choose to do what they do. Fact – they dont. They are driven by a compulsion inside themselves. Have a little sympathy for gods sake, and im not referring particularly to Amy, but to people living with this in general.
well said
Addicts who are trying to turn their life around deserve credit, I know some who have and I respect them for turning things around. The difference is unreal. So it’s actually not impossible, it’s how badly the person wants it. Addicts who would rob their own grannies (I know some who have), deal drugs from prams with babies in them and intimidate 14 year old girls don’t.
If they want to ruin their own lives, good for them. Just don’t involve anyone else.
but unless you have actually been an addict of either drugs or alcohol, then you cant comment.
Whatever the original intent of the thread was, I don’t have a clue, so I will address the one comment.
To say, that unless we have experienced something ourselves, that we “can’t” comment is erroneous. We comment on, moralize on, make laws on, and pontificate on, all manner of things which we do not experience. In general, murderers don’t make laws against murder, yet most of us would hold an opinion, I dare say, on murder. However, it goes deeper than that; it goes to the root of our own sense of right and wrong. That is, holding counsel with ourselves allows us the opportunity to decide if a certain something is safe, prudent, or advisable. If we see a someone fall in the river and drown, surely we don’t have to experience that drowning to decide if it is a good thing, or if we should pass comment on it.
Sometimes we see the inadvisability of something, yet another something leads us forward, nevertheless. This is no doubt part of our make-up as humans, but willingly putting ourselves in harms way would seem pathological. This pathology might manifest itself in a myriad of ways; addictions of all sorts. One thing is certain, neither pity, nor condemnation will do a bit of good to cure these addictions, for the addict has no friend, only their parasitic condition.
When and if an addict reaches rock-bottom, and their desire to change is greater than their need to destroy themselves, then any helping hands should be austere, for an addicted mind will take softness as tacit approval of the addiction itself. It is not a matter of judgment at this point, but rather one of stark reality. Cheer for them, rally round them if you must, but boundaries must be laid down, and boundaries kept. Any other relationship will end up being toxic, indeed.
Stephen
A sterling commentary from you, Stephen, but I have come to expect no less. =D>
i expect you’ll be countered with wit and intelligence by being told you’re talking out of your arse :wink: :lol:
Don’t know if this pics already been posted so I apologize in advance if it has – taken this week in Camden.
Staggering out of a bar at 3.30am – this has to rate as the uglist pic to date.
She’s clearly on borrowed time.
Allow me to retort: What a load of guff.
Evening, Baldy and assorted luvvies. I’m not making a case for drug addiction. I’m making a case for taking drugs. A distinction that seems to be lost on you. Drugs and addiction are not coterminous. Do try and keep up. I’ll break it down for you:
Where A is drug takers (of all sorts) and B is addicts (of all sorts).
You’ll notice not all addicts are drug addicts and not all drug users are addicts. An obvious point, one would think.
Now, keep concentrating:
Drugs are dangerous.
However, many worthwhile things are also dangerous. Motor racing, for example.
Inherent danger alone, then, is not always a reason not to do things. Life would be boring. Especially if we can show what might be an occasional obvious benefit arising from said activities.
Ladies and germs,
Samuel Taylor Coleridge’s ~ Kubla Khan. I’m sure you can think of your own examples.
Geesuz, Pikester, chill..ayight? No what I’m sayin’? Roll yourself a fatty and groove on the magic love making carpet. Puff, puff. Yeah, kewl…real sweet.
Here’s a pic of young Amy toking on her first spliff. Talk about the munchies, she would down three bottles and a jar of mushy peas after one of those doobies.
Stephen RamdasKrishnamurtiParamahansaYogananda…Oh, yes, memsahib I am the very picture of enlightenment and joy after only one line of this magic ash. Where on earth did you get this dried white aura of the great Mahatma? Fu/cking mind-blowing, you can most assured be.
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