Criminal or not ?

@pete wrote:

Bankrupts have money, they can still work, they still have bills to pay and food to buy. Being bankrupt doesn’t mean you never pay anything else ever in your life.

No but it does mean all your spare income goes into paying your debts until you are discharged after 3 years. The guy has no spare income (Technically) because he’s a bankrupt.

As it is, there’s been an online fund to pay off the guys debt and the targets been reached.

http://bastardoldholborn.blogspot.com/2010/03/target-reached.html

I’m glad I’m not clever and know fuck all :lol:

@florrie wrote:

Quiet Man – you got your bags packed and heading for Cuba then ?

Bit warmer there, but it’s like any socialist paradise, totally sh*t to live there unless you’ve got money or are a party member.

@pete wrote:

@quiet_man wrote:

@pete wrote:

Personal disagreements with a law dont make it ok to break it, and obviously being bankrupt doesn’t mean you dont have to pay a fine. I’m pretty sure some kind of means test would have been employed. He ignored the law probably even encouraged the breaking of it, thats just plain silly even if you disagree with the law (personally i think they should have left it to individual pubs/brewerys)

How could he encourage it when he wasn’t there when it happened?

Nick Hogan was convicted of a political crime and imprisoned for being unable to pay the fines, which were imposed by a court that was perfectly aware he would not be able to pay them. They knew, when they imposed the fines, that they were going to jail him for non-payment and that was always the intention. To make an example. He did not refuse to pay. He was unable to pay.

A political prisoner in a debtor’s prison. In the UK. The antismokers, made this happen. Their drooling spite has made this country less free than Cuba. And you really believe this technique will only be used against smokers, don’t you?

That is what we must fight. Injustice. Soviet-style show trials based on oppressive and unfair laws. It must stop now because it is already an offence to ‘not agree with the law’ on smoking, and it is a trivial matter to extend that to ‘not agreeing with the government’ on anything.

Nick Hogan, 43, was sentenced to six months in prison for refusing to pay a fine imposed for flouting the legislation.
Two years ago Hogan, who ran two pubs in Bolton, became the first landlord convicted of breaking the law for allowing his customers to routinely light up in his bars.
At the hearing, in January 2008, magistrates were told Hogan held a ‘mass light-up’ in his two pubs, the Swan Hotel and Barristers’ Bar, in Bolton, on the day the smoking ban came into force in July 2007.
He was visited by inspectors from the local authority, who found letters taped to pub tables advising customers they had the ‘freedom to choose whether or not to smoke’.
They also saw regulars smoking on five separate occasions.
Hogan, who has since sold his lease for both the pubs, was cleared of one count of failing to prevent his customers from smoking and four further charges of obstructing council officers.

Political prisoner my arse

It’s a political crime, the state are asking him to enforce their laws, he’s not a policeman, nor a criminal. Nor is smoking a criminal offence, nor is it illegal.

So that makes him a political prisoner for not doing the diktats of the state.