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7 April, 2010 at 9:03 pm #436979
If the russians believed the moon landings hadn’t occured wouldnt they have put men there themselves to prove it after all there’s equipment left behind.
There are far too many people who would have to keep a secret for either the moon landings or 9/11 to have been conspiracies9 April, 2010 at 7:21 am #436980Most conspiracy theories are pure fantasy. On the subject of 9/11 – yes, there was a conspiracy – by Al Qaeda.
I do have one conspiracy theory about a recent event, though. That’s the Toyota re-calls. Without pointing the finger too closely, all the safety concerns about Toyota cars appear to have surfaced in the USA within a short space of time. Could it be that interests close to the US motor industry decided to adopt ‘dirty tricks’ tactics?
9 April, 2010 at 11:43 am #436981Toyota…..what about that Henry Ford bloke ?
“The Christian cannot read his Bible except through Jewish spectacles, and, therefore, reads it wrong.”
Wonder what he meant by that….
13 April, 2010 at 12:40 pm #436982Henry Ford was a vile man is why
24 April, 2010 at 11:23 pm #436983@Bad Manners wrote:
@pikey wrote:
With regards to my old Tim chum’s original missive, I wouldn’t say that involving a conspiracy automatically invalidates any particular theory. After all, conspiracies have indeed happened. I believe, for example, that the United States engineered the Spanish-American War by arranging to have one of her own battleships crippled in a Cuban harbour. Then there was Hitler and the unfortunate business with the Reichstag. But, as always, the best thing to do when examining any theory is to apply Occam’s Razor and see if it still stands up.
Sure, but I think the examples you gave are still slightly different to the ones I mentioned in the opening post. I believe after studying both that the Moon Landing Conspiracy and 9/11 are slliced to pieces by Occam’s Razor.
Quite an interesting video here on You Tube. It tries to link the mindset of conspiracy theorists to those of a religous persuassion, but I found it quite interesting.
I agree, Manners, my old Tim chum. But I think it’s a mistake to judge all conspiracy theorists by the representations of the extreme fringe – in much the same way as I believe it’s a mistake to judge all religion by the representations of the extreme fringes. Have you ever happened upon The Lobster? Some of the stuff in there, while still classifiable as conspiracy theorising, is very good journalism, I reckon. Like many things, it’s a very fine line, I suppose.
27 April, 2010 at 5:54 pm #436984I conspire that Pete is a secret Toon Army supporter :lol:
27 April, 2010 at 7:29 pm #436985If i am it’s so secret even I don’t know it :shock:
27 April, 2010 at 7:39 pm #43698627 April, 2010 at 9:01 pm #436987As believers in the literal truth of the Bible, they knew it was there.
Even so, the explorers who say they found seven large wooden compartments beneath snow and volcanic debris near the peak of Mount Ararat can be forgiven their excitement.
‘It’s not 100 per cent that it is Noah’s Ark, but we think it is 99.9 per cent that this is it,’ said Yeung Wing-cheung, a filmmaker working with the 15-strong team of fundamentalist Christians exploring the Turkish mountain.
They said wood taken from the site, which is more than 13,000ft above sea level, dates to 2,800BC. If it is the ark, the discovery would be the greatest in the history of archaeology and bear
out one of the most famous stories in the Bible.
The team of Turks and Chinese researchers from Noah’s Ark Ministries
International in Hong Kong say they made the discovery on Ararat – the biblical resting place of the ark – in October.
At a press conference yesterday to announce the discovery, another team member, Panda Lee, said: ‘I saw a structure built with plank-like timber.
‘Each plank was about eight inches wide. I could see tenons, proof of ancient construction predating the use of metal nails.
‘We walked about 100 metres to another site. I could see broken wood fragments embedded in a glacier, and some 20 metres long.’
The structure had several compartments, some with wooden beams, the team said.
The wooden walls of one compartment were smooth and curved while the video shown by the explorers revealed doors, staircases and nails.
The team said the wood appeared to be cypress although, according to the Bible, the ark was built from gopher.
The group ruled out identifying the find as a human settlement, saying none had been found so high up in that area. They are keeping the exact location secret.
Four years ago and following a decade of research, U.S. national security analyst Porcher Taylor claimed a satellite image revealed a baffling ‘anomaly’ on the mountain’s north-west corner that he believed to be the remains of the Ark.
But Mike Pitt, a British archaeologist, said the evangelical explorers had yet to produce compelling evidence.
He added: ‘If there had been a flood capable of lifting a huge ship 4km up the side of a mountain 4,800 years ago, I think there would be substantial geological evidence for this flood around the world. And there isn’t.’
Nicholas Purcell, a lecturer in ancient history at Oxford University, said the claims were the ‘usual nonsense’. He added: ‘If floodwaters covered Eurasia 12,000ft deep in 2,800BC, how did the complex societies of Egypt and Mesopotamia, already many centuries old, keep right on regardless?’
According to Genesis, the first book in the Old Testament, Noah was told to build the ark by God, who wanted to flood the world to punish sinners.
The story was widely seen as fact until the 19th century, when scientists began to question the evidence for a worldwide flood.
Watch this turn out to be a crook of sh.it
Anyway’s I was more interested in some of the comments about it going along the lines of “The Bible is a historical record of Human descent. Most events and people in the Bible have been proved.” etc etc.
Clearly nonsense statements, but It does tie in with the video I linked to earlier about how people can simply lie or totally bend the truth to further their belief either in religion or in conspiracy theories. -
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