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J i’m not entirely sure why you feel the need to lecture me on the need to ban guns??? I made the statement I did simply because that’s how I personally feel!
I choose not to elaborate on my feelings in this matter on a forum board … that doesn’t mean I feel any less upset or shocked at the situation … It means I prefer to keep my opinions to myself ….. something many on these boards may at times benefit from doing …..
Now I know your long term sparring partner is awol …. please don’t assume I am here to take her place!!!
I am fully aware of the wrongs in the world around us … and if I feel the need to understand more … I have google!
If I needed a preacher …..I would attend church!!!
I shall say no more on the topic!
it’s a question of debate rather than lecturing and preaching…it is for me, anyway.
As the details of the killings emerge, the horror is matched by a terrible sorrow. What on earth can have possessed a bright young man to go to a primary school and use a rifle on 20 small kids? He shot some of the little ones several times. What on earth led him to do this? I’m not talking about a rational motive, as clearly there isn’t one, but the emotional need.
Perhaps one day we”l learn about this, and maybe take measures to reduce it.
Just getting rid of guns isn’t going to do it, though gun laws in the US are way too lax.
It’s the same debate that takes place about whether sex and violence on tv causes sex and violence in society. No simple answer, and certainly no simple solution. This lad didn’t have a gun – he stole it from his mother after killing her.
So I agree with Boo – it’s not the existence of guns, it’s the people who use them – and the society which encourages their use in its culture.
The news in the run up to Christmas is not filling me with the right sort of festive cheer, that’s for sure.
Easy access to guns makes it easier for those who – for whatever reason – have impaired decision making processes to cause wanton destruction. Sure guns don’t kill people but guns make it easier for to kill.
I’ve always found the right to bear arms defence a tad problematic because there is a direct correlation between this type of crime and access to guns.
But it’s a difficult thing for any stateside political administration to take on: the gun lobby is extremely powerful and it’s possible to have some understanding for anyone who wants to have a gun at home to protect their family from other people who have guns. The latter is a classic competitive action problem, because the more you liberate access to guns, the more you need to be better protected against them.
It would be a great Christmas present if this has been the catalyst for a change of political opinion regarding gun ownership. And at least Obama doesn’t need to appease anyone in order to win an election, which might fortify his and others will to do something about it.
I agree Scep … I just choose not to debate it …. because to do so I would need to read/listen to the news etc … and I’d rather not know the details…I don’t like what happens in the world … so I shut myself off from it the best I can!
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I agree Scep … I just choose not to debate it …. because to do so I would need to read/listen to the news etc … and I’d rather not know the details…I don’t like what happens in the world … so I shut myself off from it the best I can!
that I understand…
What can you say… shocking, horrendous, very sad indeed, what on earth goes through the likes of these peoples heads they must be seriously fecked up, wonder if he had mental health issues or was just a random loss of mind, whatever way, or reason, someone that does this…sane, insane, temporary insanity, still plain evil :evil:
The NRA lobby group in the USA just said….
“The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun”
No mention of how much better if there were no guns at all?
It seems though that in a recent poll in the USA public opinion is that the best way forward is to have armed officers in schools. This is all very alien to our British ears….. thank heavens.
the NRA are big business…the US gun laws are really crazy.
It would be best if there were no guns…and best if there were no killings..of adults or kids…
but until that happens, then we have to think of how best to protect ourselves and our children
so I understand the US public..your child’s safety comes first, and there is beginning to be such cause for concern in that country that a discreetly armed and well trained guard may be seen as a horrible necessity in schools.
It’s everybody’s wish that this situation doesn’t happen in Britain, and we have a different culture from that in the US (or South Africa etc). Any more Dunblanes would make me reconsider that.
Yes my heart goes out to them. It really does, but lets face it some news is sexier than others.
If a highly-strung divorced woman wanted to take her socially inept son out of school, to concentrate on home learning and regular practise with guns to prepare for the end of civilisation, then she certainly paid the most awful price.
That strange American preoccupation with guns and civil rights will remain; the sale of firearms will increase and, despite the hand-wringing from the President down, no one will truly address the Public Health issue.
But one day later the Syrian Government drop bombs on a refugee camp killing even more small kids, aged 5 and 6, and no one even notices . . . . . ??
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. .ouch.. touche.. and the little kiddies in Pakistan killed by Obamas drones..
clusters of babies..
sometimes I hate this life. :(
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