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  • 5 November, 2012 at 11:08 am #19370

    panda12

    The fox is not classed as vermin.

    “Foxes are a native British species that is not, and has never been, classed as vermin by DEFRA. Their predation upon lambs and chickens is very low compared to the total of pre-abattoir livestock mortality, and by preying upon crop-eating rabbits and voles, they can actually financially benefit agriculture.”

    http://www.thesittingfox.co.uk/Fox%20FAQ.htm

    http://www.fiveroadsforum.org/UrbanFoxes.pdf

    5 November, 2012 at 11:59 am #514012

    Irish_Lucy

    How can clothes be vermin??

    *legs it before Panda gets her paws on me

    5 November, 2012 at 12:03 pm #514013

    panda12

    @irish_lucy wrote:

    How can clothes be vermin??

    *legs it before Panda gets her paws on me

    :roll:

    5 November, 2012 at 12:25 pm #514014

    Irish_Lucy

    hehe relax Panda i was only messing.

    We dont have a problem with urban foxes over here so wouldnt know what to do if I seen one (where I live).

    Where my parents live in the country, now thats a different story and the farmers shoot them any chance they get so save their livestock.

    I however would rather a fox in my garden anyday over a ferret.

    5 November, 2012 at 12:51 pm #514015

    anc

    Had a fox asleep in the sun in my garden the other day – beautiful creature, but yeah a problem in both urban and rural areas. :(

    5 November, 2012 at 1:29 pm #514016

    panda12

    @anc wrote:

    …a problem in both urban and rural areas. :(

    They’re not. It’s all myth, propaganda spread by the pro hunt lobby.

    Remember, fox hunting grew out of a need to satisfy blood lust, the need to chase and kill an animal for fun and enjoyment, not as a genuine conservation issue.

    Nowdays, because the pro hunt looby is too ashamed to admit they like to kill foxes for pure fun, they have added the “conservation” strand to their arguement which, on greater scrutiny, is flawed.

    Foxes are just doing what comes naturally. If they do cause a problem, a few simple steps which does not involve killing them will help eradicate the problem.

    When one fox is killed, another just takes over the terrority. Killing is not the solution to problem foxes.

    5 November, 2012 at 3:23 pm #514017

    anc

    hmmmm, being a farmer’s daughter, and living in London – I see both sides of the fence here!

    5 November, 2012 at 3:42 pm #514018

    panda12

    @anc wrote:

    hmmmm, being a farmer’s daughter, and living in London – I see both sides of the fence here!

    Killing is not the answer as these ppl have found out:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4298578.stm

    and here:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1405940/Brave-Lancelot-the-llama-keeps-foxes-at-bay.html

    5 November, 2012 at 3:55 pm #514019

    jen_jen

    Haven’t we had this discussion before or am I having déjà vu? :?

    5 November, 2012 at 4:11 pm #514020

    panda12

    @jen_jen wrote:

    Haven’t we had this discussion before or am I having déjà vu? :?

    What a thread about how foxes and their behaviour has been misconstrued?

    Some ppl call foxes vermin. They’re not.

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