Cliques and Cliches

@wordsworth60 wrote:

@(f)politics? wrote:

. . . . without sounding harsh they cant actually produce children which in basic terms is what we are mainly on this earth to do, . . .

So let’s refuse marriage to everyone who can’t have children. There’s no way of saying it without sounding harsh really is there?

That wasnt what i was saying i was saying the main reason for the majority not all of the animal kingdom and indeed the plant kingdom is to procreate, and mother nature works so that everything has some place in achieving procreation, what im saying is from your comments about child abuse animal abuse and so forth, there is no advantage to the human race at all in the move forward to gay marriages, no more no less.

@panda12 wrote:

Perhaps poli, it’s simple. Gay ppl who are religious want the right to marry in Church because it is important to them to be joined in matrimony in the eyes of God. You say it makes no difference? To you maybe but to them it is important and it does make a difference in the same way it’s important for someone to be baptised or Confirmed.

You clearly belong to and believe in cliques.

it makes no difference in the grand scheme of things no, only difference it makes is to the individual person, but it isnt world saving, we are all too interested in ourselves rather than the greater good, people need to stop feeling hard done by and victims and wanting to alter the world for selfish reasons and start accepting what is and living with it, make changes that maybe are for the greater good yes, but not just for the personal good, it has NO benefit to society from what i can see no.
And i will just re iterate i actually don’t care whether a gay couple want to get married or not my gripe is with feeling the need to change every god dam thing thats steeped in traditions for a world that people like to call the modern world, maybe a better word would be a new world, and not all change is for the better.

@(f)politics? wrote:

@wordsworth60 wrote:

@(f)politics? wrote:

. . . . without sounding harsh they cant actually produce children which in basic terms is what we are mainly on this earth to do, . . .

So let’s refuse marriage to everyone who can’t have children. There’s no way of saying it without sounding harsh really is there?

That wasnt what i was saying i was saying the main reason for the majority not all of the animal kingdom and indeed the plant kingdom is to procreate, and mother nature works so that everything has some place in achieving procreation, what im saying is from your comments about child abuse animal abuse and so forth, there is no advantage to the human race at all in the move forward to gay marriages, no more no less.

I’m sorry Pol, I don’t find your arguments clear. Maybe it’s just too late at night for this stuff. Marriage isn’t about mother nature, it’s a legal and social protection for everything associated with a relationship, children, property, healthcare etc. Relatively few species naturally pair-bond for life. Exuberant homosexual activity has been observed in a large number of species. A recent news story revealed that one scientists reports of homosexual acts between penguins was suppressed because the behaviour was deemed to be depraved by the worthies who received the report.

As you’ve indicated bonding with your soulmate should be more important than the piece of paper.

If there is no advantage to the human race of gay marriage over civil partnership, then that really indicates that there is no advantage to the human race of religious marriage over civil marriage. In fact in many countries the religious ceremony has to be completely separate from the religious ceremony. Alternatively, couples are allowed to embellish a fundamentally civil ceremony with religious rituals. The difference in the UK is because we have an established Church.

And yet . . . from an early age children are encouraged to desire marriage in its religious form, nursery schools hold marriage ceremonies complete with cake and guests and in some cases conducted by real clergy. Happy Ever After still follows The Kiss with no explanation of how you resolve the inevitable differences between someone who’s spent years living in a palace and someone who’s spent years living as a frog, or with 7 dwarves or in a 100 year coma.

I still see no better reason for refusing same-sex marriage than for refusing opposite-sex marriage.

So they can go to Holland to get married ideal so no need to continue the debate lol :lol: besides i’m bushed lol night x

Imagine there’s no countries
It isn’t hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people living life in peace………

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