Chivalry? Is it dead? SHOULD it be dead?

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“humouress”?

Is that the female version of humour then? :lol:

Who said I’m easy? :o :o :o :oops: :oops: :oops:

For once I agree with your drivel…erm drivel lol

Raising kids well AND building a career are both fulltime jobs, to try and do both means one or both will be poorly done but to accomodate that the standard of parenting has religiously lowered to make “adequate” parenting far more accessible

Even in the employment arena “equality” is a misnomer, women like it or not just dont present the same financial worth as men in many positions and therefore dont deserve and shouldnt be paid the same wages for the same job title and the woman who are worth the same salary cant be ascertained because it would be considered sexist (when infact its “realist”) to ask the questions that need to be asked

Infact when actual equality is put forward as a suggestion in the work arena, a method of payment that wouldnt distinguish between genders but purely on worth to the company women are the first people to complain and call it sexist lol, go figure?

@American Woman wrote:

@ubermik wrote:

Who said I’m easy? :o :o :o :oops: :oops: :oops:

Well that’s what I read on the Ladies Room wall :roll:

Of course you men are entitled to your own opinion. That being said I think you are very wrong. It’s up to both parents to raise children. Maybe if a mother can’t be there for something, then the father should step up. There are also a lot of single mothers out there taking care of their children. Do you honestly believe that she should not get paid equally for taking care of her children as a man who takes care of his? Personally, I was raised by a single mother who had to work twice as hard because to make ends meet. If she were a man, perhaps she could had a one job and be home at regular hours.
I have chosen to stay home and raise my kids. When they are in school, I will return to the workforce. It is possible to have both a career and be a good mother. If I ever have girls one day, I’m not going to tell them ‘your not worth financially as much as a boy’. I would never lie and tell her ‘stay home and have babies’. Every person deserves to follow the path that’s right for them, regardless of gender.

Well theres the issue you see, I wouldnt say someone deserves “less” exactly, but simply that its unfair for an employee to subsidise someones breeding habits as they dont benefit from it

Similarly, the people working with that “breeder” who will and do in many cases have to pick up the slack between them do more work but get the same pay as a result, so how is THAT fair irrespective of the other peoples gender?

Actual equality in terms of pay is ONLY pertinent to the amount of time at work and in many professions the flexibility someone can offer if needed, and flexibility whilst a quite valuable commodity isnt something the majority of single mums have do they?

But youre right, its the individual who chooses a path in life, so why shold an employer subsidise it over and above that individuals worth? And why should their colleagues have to pick up the slack but not be rewarded for being there more and being more flexible and available?

The people who allegedly benefit from a child in the long term is the government NOT the employer, so any shortfall in wages should be met by them if employers were allowed to pay each individual based on their individual worth rather than having to pay less valiable employees the same as more valuable ones because of some misguided “equality” concept?

Its also not strictly speaking a gender issue as many women who dont want to or cant breed WILL be penalised as a result of the ones who can and do but expect to be treated “equally” even tho their contribution to the company wont be anything like equal