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@johnboy25 wrote:
Freedom to speak is fair enough. It’s the ignorance to the fact that these things are a sensitive issue I don’t condone. For instance, I’m registered disabled (even though there isn’t much of a problem) I’ve been called spastic before and I’m not too bothered cos it’s a remark born out of ignorance but that doesn’t mean I have to happily accept it.
NO offence was made, NO offence was taken, wheres the ignorance?
If Charlie said the H word, but didn’t say it to be offensive, and no one was offended by it, whats the problem?
Should the N and H words be completely banned for the English language?
If so, can we ban the words nottingham and forest, because im offended by them, see where im coming from.
why is ignorance assumed in this kind of thing anyway?
Isnt it more a case of monkey see what monkey do? Lets look at a parallel, if one person pisses in a flower bed but then calls the police when someone else does it we’d think they were just a bit of a divvy brained twonk
Yet blacks routinely use the word nigger but whinge like a stuck pig if anyone else uses it in the exact same content, intent and meaning claiming offence
Firstly that IS racism shown by blacks
Secondly its seeing offence purely because they can get away with doing so as there wasnt any offence there or any intended, so its a bit of hysterical paranoia at best and severe mental issues at worst
To claim a word has a different meaning when said by someone of a different skin colour IS racism however you dress it up, so either the context its said in is the only relevant factor or its equally good or bad no matter what colour of skin the person saying it has
Thats whats known as “equality” a word many use but very few seem to grasp the meaning of nowadays it seems
Infact just to show how nonsensical this left wing apologetic nonsense is, its ALSO claimed that using the word “coloured” is offensive, and yet there are loads of black people who prefer that term to being called black]
its moronically logic bereft to impose or dictate what an entire mass or race of people “like” as they will all have their own preferences which wont be universally identical
Also, in the case of “blackie wanna be’s”, the whities who act decidedly “coonish” in their demeanour, they iz wanting to be black innit, so they are simply mimiccing what the blacks do, what they say and how they say it because of their total and utter lack of any form of identity or personality of their own in many cases
So even that isnt offence, its mimicry, so if you dont want to be mimmiced then dont flaming well do what you dont want copied in the first place and that avoids people whinging later on and looking like hysterical over reactive hypocritical panty slime
No offence intended of course
Monkey see, monkey do – in other words ‘because I saw someone else do it, it must mean that I can do it’ Never mind the fact that what you’ve seen the other person do might not be seen as acceptable. Isn’t that showing ignorance to the situation? I can see both sides to the arguement – my personal experiences as being ‘different’ in the eyes of some give me the perspective of the minority group, if you want to call it that.
Flip side – I went on a diversity awareness course a few years ago and what did I learn? Not a damn thing, other than ‘watch you don’t go upsetting anybody who isn’t a white, hetrosexual male’ I thought we were supposed to be learning diversity? Seems to me we’re being told to treat people differently.
If the N word rolled off her tongue just like that then its a word she often uses, maybe in jest, maybe to be offensive…….who knows.
@johnboy25 wrote:
Never mind the fact that what you’ve seen the other person do might not be seen as acceptable.
But the “who” she probably saw doing it is quite critical really isnt it?
If the ONLY people someone could copy the use of that word off were other honkies then its a valid point, but thats far removed from the case is it? Someone whos a “wanna be” black is far more likely to be copying it from proper blacks
Lets flip it to something more a clear for you
Lets suppose you DID have a problem with someone calling you a spastic
How differently do you think other people would react to your complaint about someone using that term if
a) you frequently used it yourself to refer to yourself and other disabled people
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b) if you never ever used the word yourself
Two very very different scenarios that I think would evoke two very different reactions
I don’t use the term spastic to describe other disabled people cos I know how hurtful it is to be bullied by people who don’t know any better. It doesn’t bother me now cos I had to learn to rise above it and that’s my way of dealing with it, either that or allow myself to be dragged down by people I considered ignorant (bullies) Note – I am not accusing anyone on BB of bullying before somebody thinks I’m starting a whole new topic. I’m just pointing out that the fact that they thought it was fun regardless of what anybody else thought.
And even if she is hearing the term used by blacks frequently, well so what? Doesn’t that make her stupid and naive? Charlie and Nicki aren’t those same people. What’s good for the goose isn’t always good for the gander.
Anyway, it seems now she has a history of it. Didn’t matter so much a week ago apparently…
Well the point they are DIFFERENT blacks is both irrelevant and important at the same time
Unless the same left wing do gooders are ALSO going to jump all over blacks for doing it AND unless blacks are going to be JUST as offended when other blacks use the word then as i said, to object when someone white does in the same context IS racism and IS showing preferential treatment to blacks
Infact the word is splattered all over hollywood films and TV shows anyway, so thats a mass market portrayal of the word being an ordinary everyday word
So its really splitting hairs to try and claim that who you heard using it makes a difference because it doesnt, its seen and heard used frequently within the media anyway which is known to influence language AND has a part to play in language as its used shown very clearly by the “whatever” and “do I look bovered miss” phrases to name just two from the catherine tate show
So before minority cuddling tofu eating apologists start criticising ordinary people they should first tackle the cause not the symptom
Spltting hairs is all we can do here though. Whichever way you look at it, there’s always a different yet valid way of countering it – there is no way of saying ‘what’s the big deal?’ or ‘she really shouldn’t have said that’ without a backlash of ‘why, exactly?’
My understanding, from a young age, is that it’s a racist term. My understanding now is that it’s socially acceptable in sections of the black community yet still deemed a taboo word by others. So how can you tackle the root when it’s unclear what the root is? Is the use of the word itself the issue or is it how it gets used and by whom?
@emmalush wrote:
Should the N and H words be completely banned for the English language?
I’m a little bit puzzled here and need some help.
I can figure out what the ”N” word is . but will SOMEBODY please please tell me what the hell the ”H” word is?
I think there is something that COULD be done actually, and its not really rocket science
We go back to what the meaning of “equality” used to mean before left wing academia got hold of it, we treat everyone of every colour the same and stamp out modern racism in the form of positive discrimination, favouritism of ethnic minorities and the like and let blacks decide whether NOBODY uses the word nigger or whether its used by all and the context its used in becomes relevant
Had it been a black person saying it there wouldnt have been a reaction at all, that IS however its dressed up racism
And yet isnt racism supposed to be a bad thing and equality a good one?
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