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@fastcars wrote:
How many of your claims are based on “fact”? You follow this media circus round with avid interest jumping on every item that helps to back up your case… fact or otherwise. And now all of a sudden you feel the media should be investigated for mud slinging. Hypocrite.
Blah de blah de blah
A simple “Ok, I cant back up my silly claims with anything you’ve posted, youre right” would have sufficed lol
Firstly, the medias activities IS a seperate issue, and one I have criticised many times throughout this
The medias unprofessional reporting isnt linked in anyway at all to suspicion of guilt nor innocence, regardless of whether someone suspects them or not the reporting HAS been unprofessional, and I suspect doesnt even stay within the guildlines of their mandate for verification of sources, as thought I have expressed several times before also
As for how many of my “claims” are based on factt?????
How many of yours are? NOBODY has any facts here whether they suspect innocence or guilt and EVERY comment, view or opinion is merely supposition or theory because of that and ALL are based on an absolute absence of actual known fact of their guilt or innocence and is merely based on the extremely contradictive media reports and TV interviews
So, just to make it clear, I CAN either think they killed Maddie AND think the medias reporting is crap OR I can just as equally think they are innocent AND that the media reporting is crap without either combination being “hypocritical” as theyre two seperate issues entirely
And you and people “claiming” theyre innocent are doing so on equally non existent “facts” meaning the point you are trying to make is non existant unless your innacurately trying to call yourself a hypocrit too of course
So, in a nutshell you cant back up your claims of hypocrisy with anything at all that shows hypocrisy can ya?
Or you just dont know what the word actually means but thinks it sounds “cleva” when you use it lol
now now folks lets not get shirty. :lol: we all have a right to our opinions whatever they may be.
i see on sky news some judge has described gerry mcanns behaviour as unbelievably negligent in leaving his children alone. this is the nub of all the arguing realy isnt it ? some people think the mcanns deserve sympathy, understanding, and our help, whilst others [myself included] think they should be prosecuted and punished for allowing their daughter to be taken, [however she disappeared is irellevant realy] the facts are madelaine is the one suffering, and her bleating parents want to be absolved of their guilt. as far as im concerned they have got exactly what they [not little maddie] deserve. little girl is the one paying the price of their incalculable self centred foolishness for leaving her in that situation in the first place.You’re absolutely correct Waspish – this IS the central issue here.
Whatever your views on the fate of poor Maddie, none of this would (or could) have happened if the holy and sainted McCanns had acted in any way as responsible parents and made appropriate arrangements for the safety of their defenceless children.
On a separate point …. I notice that the Portuguese authorities have finally caught on to the fact that the McCanns and their highly skilled (and expensive) team of spin doctors are issuing almost daily press releases – desperately attempting to exploit every possible theory connected with Maddie’s ”disappearance”.
I find it odd that (whatever your own views as to their competence or lack of it) the Portuguese police are STILL focussing on the ”Maddie was killed” theory.
OK so maybe some of them are a bit dozy, or even outright lazy etc etc. But however you look at it … they can’t ALL be stupid….. a few maybe but not ALL of them. They must have some pretty good ideas and suspicions as to what actually happened.
This is mud slinging, and desperation from the Portugese Police or whoever it was that said it.
They’re really stooping low(er) now.
They arent paid to have an opinion on who was neglegent or who wasnt. They’re paid to find Madeleine.I also wouldent say it was odd that the Portugese Police are still almost exculsively focusing on the killed theory.
They have been made to look like bungling ar/ses from the start of the Investigation. They co.cked it up in every way possible from the very beginning.
I’d Expect the mud slinging, slurs and ridicolous stories to continue. The McCanns have every right through their PR people (since they cant officialy comment themselves) to try to counter said stories.@Bad Manners wrote:
This is mud slinging, and desperation from the Portugese Police or whoever it was that said it.
They’re really stooping low(er) now.
They arent paid to have an opinion on who was neglegent or who wasnt. They’re paid to find Madeleine.I also wouldent say it was odd that the Portugese Police are still almost exculsively focusing on the killed theory.
They have been made to look like bungling ar/ses from the start of the Investigation. They co.cked it up in every way possible from the very beginning.
I’d Expect the mud slinging, slurs and ridicolous stories to continue. The McCanns have every right through their PR people (since they cant officialy comment themselves) to try to counter said stories.I’m not really convinced
Seems odd that the same people who chastise people for believing the papers where suspicion is aimed at the MCanns as its not “proof” seem eagerly falling over themselves to believe any claims the portugeuse police are lazy, inept or anything else negative for one
Anyone ever heard the word hypocrit?
Another thing, is the “we love the MCanns” camp have incessantly criticised anyone who doubts their innocence or disbelieves the MCanns account of events, EVEN the police
As many of their alleged instances of ineptitude ARE to do with them taking the MCanns claims as fact and proceeding accordingly that also smacks of utter hypocrisy, because its the fact they didnt seem to want to suspect or investigate the MCanns at all to begin with thats lead to many of the claims they are useless
Flippin heck, with the ammount of complete self contradictions, hypocrisy and totally illogical illconcieved thought processes bouncing about on the “we love the MCanns” camp on here anyone could be forgiven for thinking they’d logged into New Labour.com or Leftwingpoliticsonline.co.uk lol
And likewise…. I challenge you to find any sign of hypocrisy on my part. Not living in the UK I dont get to see these daily news reports and I rarely click on the endless stream of links provided by Batty as she… like yourself…. only post information to back your theory of guilt on the part of the McCanns. The facts of the case are quite simple. A child has gone missing and nobody has got the faintest idea how. If the McCanns are found guilty then they should suffer the consiquences but at this moment in time there is no evidence whatsoever linking them to her dissapearance. My gut feeling says they are guilty of nothing more than leaving their kids alone unattended…… and i certainly dont buy into this witch hunt that yourself… Batty and PB have been on for the last months. Vigilantes were outlawed many years ago for a fair judicial system. Shame you havent caught up with modern day law isnt it.
Well actually, if they had this happen in France – they’d be Guilty until they proved their innocence. So it isn’t JUST a witch hunt and modern day law isn’t all it seems on some occasions.
But, once more for the record, my opinion is that they ARE guilty and that they are making fools out of all their supporters.
@fastcars wrote:
And likewise…. I challenge you to find any sign of hypocrisy on my part. Not living in the UK I dont get to see these daily news reports and I rarely click on the endless stream of links provided by Batty as she… like yourself…. only post information to back your theory of guilt on the part of the McCanns. The facts of the case are quite simple. A child has gone missing and nobody has got the faintest idea how. If the McCanns are found guilty then they should suffer the consiquences but at this moment in time there is no evidence whatsoever linking them to her dissapearance. My gut feeling says they are guilty of nothing more than leaving their kids alone unattended…… and i certainly dont buy into this witch hunt that yourself… Batty and PB have been on for the last months. Vigilantes were outlawed many years ago for a fair judicial system. Shame you havent caught up with modern day law isnt it.
Well to try once again to dumb things down to such a level that EVEN you can manage to understand them
I wasnt the one calling somoene a hypocrit without having a single post that could be used to substantiate that claim was I? You were. so explain why on earth I would need to substantiate an eroneous claim I havent made? Well?
Secondly, you mention theories. Well your suspicion of innocence is ONLY a theory isnt it, so the phrase “pot kettle” springs to mind
But, its also an example OF your hypocrisy, hypocrisy is the act of criticising something when someone else does it that you do yourself
Youre criticising people having an opinion, suspicion or theory on this re their guilt, your own view is the exact same thing, based on an equal absence of fact but is simply a different view
As youre not criticising EVERY view formed on nothing more than is being splayed in the media thats hypocrisy however you try to dress it up
But if you check back you’ll notice that although I do state quite clearly what my own thoughts are on this I dont criticise anyone else for having different ones even if I dont agree with them
You on the other hand do, you overtly criticise rather than merely disagreeing with people “daring” to form negative opinions when they dont have facts, when your forming postive opinions based on an equal lack of any facts to support that hypothesis
Thats hypocrisy, look it up if you dont believe me lol :lol:
While youre at it you could do with looking up the word vigilante as you also dont seem to have the faintest idea what that means, forming an opinion that doesnt worship or protect POSSIBLE child killers ISNT being a vigilante, but I am sure there are quite a few apt names for people who would proport that child murderers should be above suspicion or investigation
You should also read up on the legal system you croon on about, innocence till proven guilty DOESNT equate to being above suspicion or investigation. Infact its doing those exact same things TO “presumed innocent” people that ends in a conviction of the guilty much of the time
You really havent got the hang of constructing reasoned and balanced logical points really have ya? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
It didnt happen in France, so why the comparison.
@Bad Manners wrote:
It didnt happen in France, so why the comparison.
Jeez lol, mensa certainly wont be nicking any new members from this place will they haha :lol:
Erm, well, as much as I hate to have to restate the blatantly obvious the comparison MIGHT, just might be to do with the facts that it was a response to the post containing the line “Shame you havent caught up with modern day law isnt it” AND the fact that as france isnt as far as I’m aware stuck in some time warp their legal system IS “modern day law” meaning that the comment I pasted isnt in the slightest bit factual or an all encompassing indicative definition of “modern law”
Actually tho, it DID happen in Portugal, and IN portugal leaving kids under 14 unsupervised is a jailable offence
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