Britain getting cleverer

thats exactly what i was asking you, abt that being the whole idea of eduaction, should they be denied it as alot with difficulties never will reach an examination level, so if thats the whole idea of it why would they waste the time and money doing it ?

I believe you actually said kids are taught how to pass exams. Yes they are be being taught knowledge and an exam at the end is a test of that knowledge. To be able to pass that exam is the ultimate aim of academic and vocational education as it currently stands in schools and further education colleges.

In an ideal world, all kids would pass all their exams but the reality is they don’t and won’t and that is for a variety of reasons. Even the brightest kid can go to pieces and flunk an exam, where a kid who has under achieved / not shown promise may put the effort in at exam time and achieve a pass.

Teachers cannot legislate for what is going to happen in an exam so they have to give every kid a level playing field.

And a lot of kids with learning difficulties go on to achieve exam success because there is a greater understanding of the causes and help is available for their exams.

http://www.dyslexiaa2z.com/learning_difficulties/dysgraphia/dysgraphia_exam_concessions.html

Yes, it’s true Gaz that kids are only taught what the powers that be want them to know. You only need look at the Creationism v Evolution debate to see that.

Couldn’t agree more about indoctrination – that is there from the cradle to the grave and serves to prove we are not truely free.

Why is it that they have been giving Sex Education yet we rank up on high regarding teen STD`s and pregnancy ?

I think that is more due to the fact they can get social housing if they have a kid and benefits rather than not knowing about sex. Take those little perks away you will soon see the teen pregnancy rate plummet.

You can lead a horse to water etc…..Educate them 24/7…… Not very much use if the Content is spiked

I agree with that although I think religious indoctrination creating extremists is far more dangerous.

@gazlan wrote:

Some People might be interested in this, i think it relates. It cannot be denied that despite the years of systematic mind bending having taken effect, we have to undergo the
” media ” input, not just in terms of advertisement but, entertainment, sport etc…..

A typical example of Media persuation can be shown here >>

two Israeli groups have set up training courses in subversive Wikipedia editing aiming to ‘show the other side’ of the Jewish State.
Those who lend their pen to the Palestinian cause know about Wikipedia Jews, a term that was coined a few years ago. It refers to a bunch of rabid and crypto Zionists who constantly vandalise encyclopaedia entries to do with Palestine, Palestinian

http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/gilad-atzmon-united-against-knowledge.html

Just who is to be trusted ? :roll:

Not sure you can fully trust stuff on the internet unless from a bona fide source but Wiki is prone to attacks as it allows Joe Public to edit it..

@panda12 wrote:

but i do feel teaching is now as mims said is alot more directed at exam result achievements,

That is the whole idea! :roll:
#-o

But it maybe shouldn’t be. To just teach so that people pass exams misses out information that might provide a more well rounded understanding of a subject. I guess it has always been like this since the education system involved passing exams to measure achievement, but the skill base is highly weighted on the skills needed to get maximum points. This is a skill, and a very useful one, but I wonder whether learning how to pass exams, to answer questions in such a way as to get maximum results, is really an education? No doubt it will set all children who achieve good results well on their way to an academic future, but do they learn how to analyse and think for themselves? Do they all read round subjects they are studying to gain a deeper insight? There is no doubt that you have to be able to absorb knowledge and understand your subject to be able to pass the exams in the first place, and I am not saying that children that get good grades are not intelligent. I just wonder if they are transferrable skills and being able to pass exams does not always indicate that one child is more intelligent than another. Some exceptionally clever people are cr@p at passing exams. Does this kind of education squash the natural talents in some children?

But it maybe shouldn’t be. To just teach so that people pass exams misses out information that might provide a more well rounded understanding of a subject. I guess it has always been like this since the education system involved passing exams to measure achievement, but the skill base is highly weighted on the skills needed to get maximum points. This is a skill, and a very useful one, but I wonder whether learning how to pass exams, to answer questions in such a way as to get maximum results, is really an education? No doubt it will set all children who achieve good results well on their way to an academic future, but do they learn how to analyse and think for themselves? Do they all read round subjects they are studying to gain a deeper insight? There is no doubt that you have to be able to absorb knowledge and understand your subject to be able to pass the exams in the first place, and I am not saying that children that get good grades are not intelligent. I just wonder if they are transferrable skills and being able to pass exams does not always indicate that one child is more intelligent than another. Some exceptionally clever people are cr@p at passing exams. Does this kind of education squash the natural talents in some children?

GCSEs and A Levels involve studying a curriculum for two years – a lot is taught in those two years with approx 9 subjects at GCSE and 3 – 4 at a Level.

Children are taught to analyze information and think for themselves and develop their own arguments and theories. These are transferable skills they will use throughout their life.

From my experience of non scientific subjects such as history, English literature, sociology etc there is no wrong or right answer – grades are awarded on how they present their argument and the evidence they use to back it up.

Many essay questions will ask a question such as “The Chartists were a well organized movement. Discuss” or “Do you agree Karl Marx was right when he said religion is the opium of the people?”

These are open questions, invite the kid to express their opinion / interpretation and present their argument.

At A Level kids are given extra reading to do and encouraged to develop a deeper understanding of the subject.

GCSEs and A Levels are now a mixture of exam and coursework thereby taking away the reliance on kids having to just pass a timed exam making it a fairer process all round.