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19 August, 2010 at 11:43 am #15033
It’s official. Britain is cleverer than last year. And last year we were cleverer than the year before. And the year before that…. well, you get the picture.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11012369So, if our kids are achieving record results every year why is it that with each new crop of bright young things that start their working career at my place of employment seem dumber than the last?
Usually they are at university and work part time to keep them in beer and fags. I have the misfortune to encounter them when I start on the night shift as they, being part time, are on the backshift.
I can honestly say, hand on heart, that as each year passes the youngsters that flood onto the job market get dumber and dumber as well as lazier and lazier.
And the result of a Labour education is all too evident as the ‘everyone is a winner’ ethos that permeated the education system is written all over their shiny wee faces when they are told, probably for the first time, that their work is not good enough or that they are not fast enough or whatever.
They have never been challenged for performance in their lives. And when they reach the real world it’s a total shock when the cold, hard truth is laid out before them.
Tesco mentioned this last year.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8306013.stmBut, I suppose Labour wanted dumb kids because they grow into dumb adults. Dumb adults = Labour core voters.
19 August, 2010 at 12:11 pm #446090Possibly because they are waking up, they have smelled the coffee and can see that they have been robbed and sold down the river unwittingly by their parents at birth. “contracted out” to the slave trade to break their likkle backs paying off huge debts created by the banking bassads before half of them were even in their mothers stomach. Then suffering in the company of “cogs in the wheel” lamenting at the fact they themselves are no more than a fellow contractee, bitter at the way the system has denied them ” happiness”… Good ere innit bruv..?
19 August, 2010 at 12:11 pm #446091@quiet_man wrote:
It’s official. Britain is cleverer than last year. And last year we were cleverer than the year before. And the year before that…. well, you get the picture.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11012369So, if our kids are achieving record results every year why is it that with each new crop of bright young things that start their working career at my place of employment seem dumber than the last?
Usually they are at university and work part time to keep them in beer and fags. I have the misfortune to encounter them when I start on the night shift as they, being part time, are on the backshift.
I can honestly say, hand on heart, that as each year passes the youngsters that flood onto the job market get dumber and dumber as well as lazier and lazier.
And the result of a Labour education is all too evident as the ‘everyone is a winner’ ethos that permeated the education system is written all over their shiny wee faces when they are told, probably for the first time, that their work is not good enough or that they are not fast enough or whatever.
They have never been challenged for performance in their lives. And when they reach the real world it’s a total shock when the cold, hard truth is laid out before them.
Tesco mentioned this last year.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8306013.stmBut, I suppose Labour wanted dumb kids because they grow into dumb adults. Dumb adults = Labour core voters.
Ah! The Quiet Man speaks his gibberish again!
No doubt these “dumb” kids will shine once they finish uni and get into their chosen profession.
After all, no one puts any real effort into a dead end job that they just do to get beer and fag money. It’s just going through the motions – if these kids are brought in just for beer and fag money, it strikes me that you can’t really be involved in a challenging job.
They probably don’t want to “shine” in case they show the old timers like you up.
19 August, 2010 at 12:23 pm #446092@panda12 wrote:
@quiet_man wrote:
It’s official. Britain is cleverer than last year. And last year we were cleverer than the year before. And the year before that…. well, you get the picture.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11012369So, if our kids are achieving record results every year why is it that with each new crop of bright young things that start their working career at my place of employment seem dumber than the last?
Usually they are at university and work part time to keep them in beer and fags. I have the misfortune to encounter them when I start on the night shift as they, being part time, are on the backshift.
I can honestly say, hand on heart, that as each year passes the youngsters that flood onto the job market get dumber and dumber as well as lazier and lazier.
And the result of a Labour education is all too evident as the ‘everyone is a winner’ ethos that permeated the education system is written all over their shiny wee faces when they are told, probably for the first time, that their work is not good enough or that they are not fast enough or whatever.
They have never been challenged for performance in their lives. And when they reach the real world it’s a total shock when the cold, hard truth is laid out before them.
Tesco mentioned this last year.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8306013.stmBut, I suppose Labour wanted dumb kids because they grow into dumb adults. Dumb adults = Labour core voters.
Ah! The Quiet Man speaks his gibberish again!
No doubt these “dumb” kids will shine once they finish uni and get into their chosen profession.
After all, no one puts any real effort into a dead end job that they just do to get beer and fag money. It’s just going through the motions – if these kids are brought in just for beer and fag money, it strikes me that you can’t really be involved in a challenging job.
They probably don’t want to “shine” in case they show the old timers like you up.
Lol ever the idiot eh panda, pretending that things can only get better, when in fact they only got worse as they always do under a Labour government. I can see in you that their education standards actually worked, you believe that these kids are smart, yet 3 of the backshift can barely read and I doubt any employer is going to give them a job other than packing boxes even with a uni education. Face it your socialist pals wrecked the economy, destroyed education standards and fooled mugs like you into thinking they were clever doing it.
Oh and here you go, the maths exam from 1952 three papers on Arithmetic, Algebra and Geometry – total time: 6 and a half hours.
http://www.burtongrammar.co.uk/?cat=114
Allowing for conversion to modern day measurements, any youngster care to take a stab at these? Oh and no calculators allowed.
What’s that? You don’t understand the questions :lol:
19 August, 2010 at 3:38 pm #446093@quiet_man wrote:
@panda12 wrote:
@quiet_man wrote:
It’s official. Britain is cleverer than last year. And last year we were cleverer than the year before. And the year before that…. well, you get the picture.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11012369So, if our kids are achieving record results every year why is it that with each new crop of bright young things that start their working career at my place of employment seem dumber than the last?
Usually they are at university and work part time to keep them in beer and fags. I have the misfortune to encounter them when I start on the night shift as they, being part time, are on the backshift.
I can honestly say, hand on heart, that as each year passes the youngsters that flood onto the job market get dumber and dumber as well as lazier and lazier.
And the result of a Labour education is all too evident as the ‘everyone is a winner’ ethos that permeated the education system is written all over their shiny wee faces when they are told, probably for the first time, that their work is not good enough or that they are not fast enough or whatever.
They have never been challenged for performance in their lives. And when they reach the real world it’s a total shock when the cold, hard truth is laid out before them.
Tesco mentioned this last year.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8306013.stmBut, I suppose Labour wanted dumb kids because they grow into dumb adults. Dumb adults = Labour core voters.
Ah! The Quiet Man speaks his gibberish again!
No doubt these “dumb” kids will shine once they finish uni and get into their chosen profession.
After all, no one puts any real effort into a dead end job that they just do to get beer and fag money. It’s just going through the motions – if these kids are brought in just for beer and fag money, it strikes me that you can’t really be involved in a challenging job.
They probably don’t want to “shine” in case they show the old timers like you up.
Lol ever the idiot eh panda, pretending that things can only get better, when in fact they only got worse as they always do under a Labour government. I can see in you that their education standards actually worked, you believe that these kids are smart, yet 3 of the backshift can barely read and I doubt any employer is going to give them a job other than packing boxes even with a uni education. Face it your socialist pals wrecked the economy, destroyed education standards and fooled mugs like you into thinking they were clever doing it.
Oh and here you go, the maths exam from 1952 three papers on Arithmetic, Algebra and Geometry – total time: 6 and a half hours.
http://www.burtongrammar.co.uk/?cat=114
Allowing for conversion to modern day measurements, any youngster care to take a stab at these? Oh and no calculators allowed.
What’s that? You don’t understand the questions :lol:
LOL @ can barely read!
You obviously never went to uni – to get in you need to have passed A Levels at least so how do you pass them without being able to read?
As for your maths paper – no good to me I’m afraid as I’m a history graduate.
And no, I didn’t grow up under a Labour govt – unfortunately for me my education was all under the Tories in the 80s and early 90s. We had to share text books (that’s if the school had text books) sports equipment was old and mainly broken and the school buildings were in dire need of repair.
In contrast, my nephew completed his education under the last Labour govt – his school had brilliant facilities and is a centre of excellence for IT and Sport.
Still, your education did you the world of good, didn’t it? Developed you into a well educated, rounded individual with an objective mind which it seems amounts to reading The Sun and the Daily Mail and believing everything they write!
Gee, QM – you must have one squashed up face due to having to sit on it so often in order to talk out of your ar*e as much as you do.
19 August, 2010 at 9:51 pm #446094@panda12 wrote:
Ah! The Quiet Man speaks his gibberish again!
No doubt these “dumb” kids will shine once they finish uni and get into their chosen profession.
After all, no one puts any real effort into a dead end job that they just do to get beer and fag money. It’s just going through the motions – if these kids are brought in just for beer and fag money, it strikes me that you can’t really be involved in a challenging job.
They probably don’t want to “shine” in case they show the old timers like you up.
I agree with you QM i have worked alongside and employed many many “students” over the years running into the hundreds, and sadly the hard working taking pride in their work “whatever that work entailed,” lessened and lessened over time, and you are quite right about how them seem to think you “can’t” question them for there poor performance, they genuinely seem to think they should be allowed to come to work not perform and get a pat on the back and money in their pocket, i hasten to add they had a short sharp shock very early on in their job and were “put right” they were asked to buck up or leave, most fell into line eventually. That said there were some that were good respectful hard working kids too, so it doesnt apply to all but the percentage has weighed on the “cant be arsed side” as years have gone on. On the plus side, i do think the recession we now find ourselves in will in that respect be an absolute godsend, employers will have more choices as there are less jobs available, and money will be tighter so they will want and expect full performance or find someone who will give that. I dont want to underestimate what the kids are achieving now as all credit to them, but i do think the real world is going to be a shock, whatever prefession they chose or find themselves in, and one profession is no better than any other, even the lawyers and doctors want a clean bog to sit on at work and some of the best people do that for them, and are as important as they are.
19 August, 2010 at 10:48 pm #446095So Poli and QM – your experinces mean that this is the general consensus? :roll:
I think what these kids are going through is called growing up and maturing. Now unlike you two (who it seems were just born old and responsible) this is going to take time. As they get older these kids will become more mature and more responsible and develop a stronger work ethic. Judging by my own progress, this happens around about now, lol.
As Queen sung:
“When we were kids when we were young
Thing seemed so perfect – you know
The days were endless we were crazy we were young
The sun was always shinin – we just lived for fun”I’ll let you know when Grumpy Old Men and Grumpy Old Women are recruiting again. :D
19 August, 2010 at 11:13 pm #446096@panda12 wrote:
So Poli and QM – your experinces mean that this is the general consensus? :roll:
I think what these kids are going through is called growing up and maturing. Now unlike you two (who it seems were just born old and responsible) this is going to take time. As they get older these kids will become more mature and more responsible and develop a stronger work ethic. Judging by my own progress, this happens around about now, lol.
As Queen sung:
“When we were kids when we were young
Thing seemed so perfect – you know
The days were endless we were crazy we were young
The sun was always shinin – we just lived for fun”I’ll let you know when Grumpy Old Men and Grumpy Old Women are recruiting again. :D
And you’re opinion of course is the general consensus too i guess! and having a good attitude and respect for people doesnt mean i am born old and responsible merely i was brought up to have respect and not expect something for nothing, but yet again you seem to think you know who i am and what i do and have done and turn an opinion personal because it doesnt suit your ideas :roll:
20 August, 2010 at 12:00 am #446097@(f)politics? wrote:
@panda12 wrote:
So Poli and QM – your experinces mean that this is the general consensus? :roll:
I think what these kids are going through is called growing up and maturing. Now unlike you two (who it seems were just born old and responsible) this is going to take time. As they get older these kids will become more mature and more responsible and develop a stronger work ethic. Judging by my own progress, this happens around about now, lol.
As Queen sung:
“When we were kids when we were young
Thing seemed so perfect – you know
The days were endless we were crazy we were young
The sun was always shinin – we just lived for fun”I’ll let you know when Grumpy Old Men and Grumpy Old Women are recruiting again. :D
And you’re opinion of course is the general consensus too i guess! and having a good attitude and respect for people doesnt mean i am born old and responsible merely i was brought up to have respect and not expect something for nothing, but yet again you seem to think you know who i am and what i do and have done and turn an opinion personal because it doesnt suit your ideas :roll:
My general consensus is based upon the fact that as QM pointed out, A Level grades have increased for something like the 28th year in a row.
Now if that’s not true, that is some lie.
My general consensus is also based on the well known fact that people become more mature and responsible as they grow older – teenagers are renowned for being irresponsible, rash, fun loving etc but as they get older, they mature and settle down.
And I don’t assume I know who you are and what you have done except to say you have no SOH and are easily riled and exercise by jumping to conclusions. Careful you don’t sprain something as it takes longer to heal at your age.
:wink:20 August, 2010 at 12:09 am #446098I see what you’re saying panda but in truth . . . .
Today’s kids are Thick to the Power of 10, and I don’t even blame them for that. As if they’d even understand . . . . . . . .
Forget about the commercial realities that pay their wages – they’re still complaining that mum hasn’t arrived to pick them up at the end of the shift. You’ll find that most firms can put up with general gormlessness or a very low retardation level if some essence of enthusiam remained, but it’s increasingly difficult to even discern that.
The hopeless generation . . . . . . . . . .
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