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Actually, I’m getting quite sick of chasing these links up. You gave a series of links on economic statistics a while ago which I patiently read, using up time I can’t get back, to find that they were lazy googling on your part which disproved your own case. Now, you googled Euro fat cats, and you came up with this. Read it again! Read it more carefully, please. You’ll find it’s a strong argument for EU-wide action. You’ll also find that the Euro fatcats who are creaming off the billions are defined quite carefully – they are not the ‘Eurocrats’ but the same fatcats who cream the the UK and every other country for billions, adapting themselves to the rules of whichever environment they find themselves in.
I don’t care what you are sick off or not, you are no more important than anyone else on this site. You NEVER contribute a technical argument with evidence yet spend hours shooting down those who do with your googled responses.
It is quite simple, the EU does not follow it own rules on pollution and costs the tax payer hundreds of billions in revenue and subsidies to that sector.
Curtice gave the most prescient analysis of the polling situation now, which is that the votes are swinging to remain, but that the shift isn’t significant or large enough to merit a new referendum.
I have mentioned his referendum poll previously, yes. Curtice is reflecting what young people now say. Young people did not vote when they had the chance in the referendum.
The young are anxious for their jobs, and quite liked the opening of opportunities given by the EU’s freedom of movement policies
British young people do NOT work in the EU zone in large numbers. Young people from the EU zone do work in the UK in large numbers because unemployment in that bracket remains stubbornly high in parts of the EU.
Immigration played a large part in Brexit and was one of the mojor factors. The political class have acknowledged this, some Remain supporters ‘remain’ stubbornly resistant to it and out of touch.
British young people have less need to work in the EU because the UK was the most successful economy in the EU. It was top of the G7 countries in terms of economic growth. If you were French, or particularly Polish, it made a lot of sense to come to Britain, where your skills were in much demand because local Brits couldn’t fill them.
Since the EU vote, the UK has dropped to near the bottom of the G7, though how much of that is down to the uncertainties caused by the brexit negotiation fiasco ( blame on Euro bullying by xenophobes haha) will be seen once everything shakes out. It will be quite a while before the dust settles.
The revenue which has boosted the economy is now down, and a lot of EU citizens have left in search of jobs. Let’s see if the UK education system can now train people in teh skills which an ‘independent’ Britain will now need.It takes quite a few years to train them up, and that is on the assumption that the UK has now sorted out its educational problems.
Still, the prosperous Britain promised will allow you all to laugh at people like me with justification, and it’s laughter I’ll happily accept.
If Britain has entered on a rather nasty path, though, then I’ll not be laughing at you, or anyone.
Gotta go for now .
they are not the ‘Eurocrats’
You keep mentioning “Eurocrat” because you just make it up as you go along. Tarrant did NOT describe it as “Eurocrat” he said “European elite” Misquoting and lying what is said is pretty much all you are good for on this site.
Gotta go for now .
Lol. Course you have. Meanwhile on planet earth the political class will honour the referendum vote.
I’ve known all kinds of people ….. is that relevant to anything ….?
British young people have less need to work in the EU because the UK was the most successful economy in the EU. It was top of the G7 countries in terms of economic growth.
Post evidence of this please. As you should be doing whenever you make these sort of claims. Secondly, absolute and utter crud. Tory policies stalled the growing UK growth from 2010.
“Productivity has stalled under the Tories, with the gap between the UK and the rest of the G7 opening up to a yawning 17 per cent. This has been the main cause of the ferocious squeeze on living standards – now the longest in over a century. Pay remains lower in real terms than when the Tories came to power. Public and private investment remain worryingly low.”
Notice the date of the article. 13 May 2016. before the referendum.
The young are anxious for their jobs, and quite liked the opening of opportunities given by the EU’s freedom of movement policies….
British young people have less need to work in the EU because the UK was the most successful economy in the EU….
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The young are anxious for their jobs, and quite liked the opening of opportunities given by the EU’s freedom of movement policies….
British young people have less need to work in the EU because the UK was the most successful economy in the EU….
And if you spent any length of time pointing out his inconsistaancy you would be there forever. He just argues for the sake of it, to win the argument and will resort to any methods to do it.
It is quite simple, the EU does not follow it own rules on pollution and costs the tax payer hundreds of billions in revenue and subsidies to that sector.
Yes, well, that’s not telling anybody anything new, is it? We all agree on that..
If you want to stop that, then EU wide measures are needed, as your link advocates.. An isolated Britain will have no impact.
I can provide many examples of of EU inefficiencies and arrogance. The Lisbon Treaty is a precise example of why people get angry with the undemocratic way which EU governments – governments, not Eurocrats – ignore the democratic will of people, and the way the Euro was set up was near-criminal in its optimism and lack of preparation – no wonder Brown kept to sterling.
None of these, none of them, are arguments for leaving the EU, a rules-based organisation which seeks to harmonise high food standards, for example, and set out to join with risk-based economies which don’t have the same standards of food and labour protection. The scientific cooperation in the EU and the programmes of educational help provided (the ERASMUS programme has been a real boon to British students) are being either ended or placed in real danger by the short-sighted Brexit strategy being followed.
The problems with the EU – and you can google them to your heart’s content and easily come up with better ones than the irrelevant example yo came up with – need to be sorted out by working for a democratic and social Europe, another type of Europe.
Stopping the world of interconnected supply chains and other aspects of gobalisation, and thinking you can get off isn’t going to fight anything – it’s going to plunge us into much worse problems, and all your bluster and lazy links won’t be able to cover them.
You NEVER contribute a technical argument with evidence yet spend hours shooting down those who do with your googled responses.
You betcha life I don’t. It’s entirely inappropriate to use this board for technical argument. I also avoid jargon whenever I can, though sometimes it’s unavoidable.
If you can’t write it in English, then don’t write it. Orwell is the best guide here.
Rather than the confrontational flaming which youandthemooose use, why not approach this in a style of discussion?
If you did, it makes people more willing to read both sides, and the discussion might be more useful.
Perhaps that is why you won’t approach it in that way? flooding against one isolated person is better, isn’t it?
Never mind. That’s come to define jc, hasn’t it?
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