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Well I will step up to plate here.
Scep. I was in f3 when the request was made to a number. At the time not sure who she was asking to post here but was her request to a number stating she could not come here to make comment. Yes, asked it you going to Italy? Meet? And to put up on boards here.
This I can say 100 percent happened.
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Thank you, Gerry, as you say you can understand my distrust of you.
I’m sure the request was genuine, but I don’t respond to personal messages given on the boards, and I’ve learned the nature of the chatrooms. The treacherous nature of some of the characters in jc has been reflected on the boards from the time I came to them to now, but the chatrooms with their anonymous characters playing games are notorious.
I don’t go in the chatrooms often, haven’t touched them for about three(?) months now and don’t feel inclined to go in there atm.
But the real Blossom knows how to get in touch with me if she really wants to. And it’s NOT via these boards.
the knife-edge votes tonight give the game away.
The government wins, and the clock ticks again. It’s not gone haywire…yet…
5 5 5
*isn’t it exciting?
I totally agree it is exciting and I predicted it. I won’t be discussing it in any great detail with the likes of you though.
Nothing new. You never discuss these things with the likes of me. You just pour a ridiculous amount of abuse out. You very rarely make serious points. When you do, I respond to them.
Just saying. just my opinion.
Good that you predicted the outcome of the vote. Most people wouldn’t dare. The whole thing is so out of control that very, very few, if anyone, can predict the outcome.
you can make guesses; they can be lucky.
but I threw my crystal ball away as a teenager when I avidly followed the US election of 1968. Lyndon Johnson was going to win, oh no it must be Robert Kennedy, wait… Linda may remember that election, or maybe she was too young to follow it. I was dead keen having read Theodore White’s ‘Making of the President 1960’ from the library.
Events., my dear boy, events, as Harold Macmillan once said. They do get in the way of prediction. no more so than on this subject. Which is why it’s exciting, to me anyway (presumably that’s why Gerry finds it exciting?)
Thank you, Gerry, as you say you can understand my distrust of you.
That’s not what I Septic, I said clearly I understand why you are upset, yet again..
You dish out the abuse like a union blackshirt and then squeal when you get a dose of back it in return. Your paranoia (self admitted) pretty much drives you and everything you type and these boards are not a nicer place because of it.
Oh and Slippery, stick your “presumptions” and you are full of them, where the sun doesn’t shine.
She may be a Tory, but Anna Soubry gave one of the best speeches yet on brexit. Full of passion.
Boris Johnson has issued a call for Theresa May to tear up her “miserable” plans for close relations with the European Union after Brexit and return to the “glorious vision” of Global Britain which she set out last year.
In a highly-charged personal statement to the House of Commons following his resignation as foreign secretary, Johnson did not make a direct challenge to May’s position as prime minister and Conservative leader.
But he denounced the plan agreed at Chequers and set out in the PM’s white paper last week as a “Brexit in name only” which would leave the UK in a state of “vassalage”.
And he left no doubt of his intention to put himself at the head of Tory backbench forces demanding a return to May’s original red lines of total withdrawal from the customs union and single market in order to allow Britain the unfettered ability to forge trade deals around the world.
Accusing the government of “dithering” over its Brexit negotiations, he said that a “fog of self-doubt” had descended on May’s stance to EU withdrawal since she first set it out in a speech at Lancaster House last year.
In a 12-minute statement, he said: “It is not too late to save Brexit.
“We have time in these negotiations.
“We have changed tack once and we can change again.
“The problem is not that we have failed to make the case for a free trade agreement of the kind spelt out at Lancaster House.
“We haven’t even tried.
“We must try now because we will not get another chance to do it right.”
Good old Boris.
The man who promised us £350m a week for the NHS as part of a Brexit dividend.
There is no brexit dividend.
The man who claimed that over 5 million Turkish immigrants were set to swoop on Britain once Turkey entered the EU.
A made-up figure, and Turkey has no chance of entering the EU for a very, very long time.
Even Michael Gove has admitted he’d rather not have subscribed to that claim.
Boris – a totally opportunist liar. A man even his colleagues hold in contempt as totally untrustworthy..
Good old Anna Soubry. (known as a pisshead in parliament) That passionate Remainer who believes in social equality and fairness for all in our society, unless you are disabled, sick or unemployed that is.
Almost always voted for reducing housing benefit for social tenants deemed to have excess bedrooms (which Labour describe as the “bedroom tax”).
Consistently voted against raising welfare benefits at least in line with prices.
Consistently voted against paying higher benefits over longer periods for those unable to work due to illness or disability.
Consistently voted for making local councils responsible for helping those in financial need afford their council tax and reducing the amount spent on such support.
Consistently voted for a reduction in spending on welfare benefits.
Almost always voted against spending public money to create guaranteed jobs for young people who have spent a long time unemployed.
etc etc etc.
A brilliantly written piece.
“Working-class Leavers were derided as turkeys voting for Christmas, but it is the middle-class Remainers who have been running around like headless chickens since the vote. Like Henny Penny, they think the sky is falling in, but whether the sky falls in or not, Brexit has made a difference to working-class people dubbed ‘the left behind’. They have become visible for the first time in generations, and to some extent feared. In January 2018 few could deny that the government’s Brexit plans are chaotic. But for working-class people all over the UK, the chaos of the NHS, Universal Credit, social cleansing and housing is their priority. And in truth, the UK’s middle class has been left relatively unscathed by eight years of austerity. Those who don’t fear the shame of the foodbank, or the looming prospect of a job in the warehouse/workhouse for their children – and instead think the crisis is about the colour of passports – should think themselves lucky.”
‘We don’t exist to them, do we?’: why working-class people voted for Brexit
An excellent explantion of why the “identity politics” of the centrist middle class is such an abysmal failure.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jul/14/identity-politics-right-left-trump-racism
what’s that last comment got to do with brexit??
*seriously worried about Gerry’s coherence
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