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5 May, 2007 at 9:54 am #6966
Well the voters have voted, the results are known and a new political era has dawned.
Emma (quoting from her BNP masters) has told us that they have contested a record number of seats in the whole of the UK – excluding London – and if my memory serves it was something in the region of 750 candidates.
YES – 750 BNP candidates stood for election …. and how many were actually elected ????
10 … yes you read it correctly …. TEN !!! They made a net gain of 1 … yes ONE!
This is without doubt a spectacular result and when set against the hundreds and hundreds of seats that some of the other political parties actually lost, you can all see that the BNP is well on its way.
Whilst it is true that they don’t actually control a Local Council – as yet … if you put together ALL the votes they received across the country, and added ALL their elected councillors into one constituency, they would be able to control one of the smaller councils out in the sticks somewhere.
So a BNP vote wasn’t wasted after all eh?
5 May, 2007 at 11:49 am #269125Absolutely not. Theres a weird fascination with you and the BNP, is it a boiling hatred flowing through your blood, or you’re bored with life and wana test me?
It is very very difficult, when you’re a NEW BNP candidate, which is what atleast half those were this week, when the entire political and media population is against you, to win your seat.
WHATEVER votes they got, is success, and like those BNP candidates who have been around for a while and won candidacy, they have now created a base on which to build.
It is pathetic of you to assume that they have failed, wait a few more elections before judging. Remember, the BNP won 808,200 votes in 2004.
If we had a fair media system, the BNP would’ve won 200 seats minimum.
As it is, the big girls get huge free exposure. This is a nightmare for ALL of us, as we only get a certain few who wana work for us.
I asked you all to vote for a smaller party.
5 May, 2007 at 12:33 pm #269126the bnp did very well here in the kirklees area in yorkshire actually.
they were only just over a hundred votes behind the tories so they got a much better return in this ward.
mind you they have a better chance here as were being overwhelmed with third world immigrants at the moment and were sick to the back teeth of the pc brigade.
roll on the next general election, tonys going to get a spanking then i reckon… :shock:5 May, 2007 at 7:31 pm #269127@emmalush wrote:
Absolutely not. Theres a weird fascination with you and the BNP, is it a boiling hatred flowing through your blood, or you’re bored with life and wana test me?
It is very very difficult, when you’re a NEW BNP candidate, which is what atleast half those were this week, when the entire political and media population is against you, to win your seat.
WHATEVER votes they got, is success, and like those BNP candidates who have been around for a while and won candidacy, they have now created a base on which to build.
It is pathetic of you to assume that they have failed, wait a few more elections before judging. Remember, the BNP won 808,200 votes in 2004.
If we had a fair media system, the BNP would’ve won 200 seats minimum.
As it is, the big girls get huge free exposure. This is a nightmare for ALL of us, as we only get a certain few who wana work for us.
I asked you all to vote for a smaller party.
Emma, you have flooded this particular section of JC with either BNP or anti Islam/establishment/anything else topics which at times have been very lively and entertaining. However the BNP (particularly through their website which predicted up to 50 seats gained which shows they believed their own hype) expected to win seats – they totally misjudged the electorate and their negative campaigning has rebounded on them
As such, those of us who are vehemntly opposed to the BNP can gloat with pleasure at their total failure last week- just as you would have done had they been successful.
You can blame everything and anyone you want and the BNP will too (though their website has gone very quiet since Thursday) but if they do, they will fail to understand that their one main reason for receiving votes (immigration and repatriation policies) is also the main reason they will never be anything but a fringe element in UK politics.
Bluster and fluster all you like- for all the BNP’s campaiging and leafletting, they totally failed last week- even in areas like Stoke where even Searchlight expected them to almost walk into the council unopposed. Burnley, they actually lost seats- and this is nothing to do with being unexposed or being misportrayed in the media- the people of Stoke and Burnley know exactly who the BNP are- they just chose NOT to vote for them- get used to it…its called DEMOCRACY
Wasp- the only 2 wards where the BNP were ever likely to succeed were Cleckheaton and Dewsbury East- the rest of Kirklees put the BNP 3rd at best and more often 4th and 5th. Their votes did number in the hundreds but the winners were in the thousands. Still, you used your democratic right and that is to be appluaded
5 May, 2007 at 9:03 pm #269128@slayer wrote:
Emma, you have flooded this particular section of JC with either BNP or anti Islam/establishment/anything else topics which at times have been very lively and entertaining.
Thanks.
However the BNP (particularly through their website which predicted up to 50 seats gained which shows they believed their own hype) expected to win seats – they totally misjudged the electorate and their negative campaigning has rebounded on them
All parties expected to do more than they did…its called self promotion. And when you think the BNP had next to no free advertising compared to those they campaigned against, i’d say they did better in their expectations.
As such, those of us who are vehemntly opposed to the BNP can gloat with pleasure at their total failure last week
They were successfull you idiot…had they been given a level playing field, then it would’ve been a failure.
You can blame everything and anyone you want and the BNP will too (though their website has gone very quiet since Thursday) but if they do, they will fail to understand that their one main reason for receiving votes (immigration and repatriation policies) is also the main reason they will never be anything but a fringe element in UK politics.
Even New Labour are talking about those issues as if they mean something to them, and guess who’s in government. Nick griffin said yesterday, how great it was that their voice had forced our government to do this, SUCCESS!!!!!!!!
Its not just about seats, its about policy.
even in areas like Stoke where even Searchlight expected them to almost walk into the council unopposed.
They would say that so they’d have their fascist approach attack. And it seems you support searchlight?
Whats the definition of racism slayer???
5 May, 2007 at 10:17 pm #269129Emma – ffs stop bleating on and on demanding that board members define racism for you … its getting boring and repetitive.
So … once and for all here is the answer (from Wikipedia) >>>
According to the Oxford English Dictionary, racism is a belief or ideology that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially to distinguish it as being either superior or inferior to another race or races.
The Merriam-Webster’s Webster’s Dictionary dictionary defines racism as a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race, and that it is also the prejudice based on such a belief.
The Macquarie Dictionary defines racism thus: the belief that human races have distinctive characteristics which determine their respective cultures, usually involving the idea that one’s own race is superior and has the right to rule or dominate others.
5 May, 2007 at 10:43 pm #269130@forumhostpb wrote:
So … once and for all here is the answer (from Wikipedia) >>>
According to the Oxford English Dictionary, racism is a belief or ideology that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially to distinguish it as being either superior or inferior to another race or races.
Wikipedia :D :D :D :D they cant even copy paste correctly…
racism
noun 1 the belief that there are characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to each race. 2 discrimination against or antagonism towards other races.
http://www.askoxford.com/results/?view=dev_dict&field-12668446=racism&branch=13842570&textsearchtype=exact&sortorder=score%2CnameSo slayer, where do you get your version that the BNP is racistly bad???
6 May, 2007 at 8:54 pm #269131Are the BNP in power yet?
6 May, 2007 at 9:42 pm #269132fgs someone throw Emma a bone
I dont need a dictionary definition to tell me when something stinks- I dont need a dictionary to tell me when something is immoral and unethical.
The BNP wishes to repatriate races back to their perceived origins (this is for people who are more English than you and I.
The BNP wishes to do ban mixed marriages (for mixed read anything that involves someone who isnt British or if they are British, they must be white)
The BNP wishes to put first white, heterosexual male (and possibly female) rather than put all British first
As I said, the SNP is a nationalist party with a broad cross gender, cross race, cross culture appeal- the BNP could do a lot worse than look at that example
Now accept that the BNP message, in BNP heartland territory (Stoke, Sandwell, Burnley, Kirklees, Bradford, Oldham etc etc etc) has been heard and rejected- it is democracy which is clearly something you object to when it doesnt go in your favour. Normal everyday people of this nation do not wish to support a party which has, as its core policy, the repatriation of their friends, neighbours, relatives, brothers, sisters, in laws, work colleagues etc
The BNP will always find support in peoples fears and (on viewing their very negative website homepage) exploits them. Luckliy, this will mainly be on the fringe of politics and it is more interesting to see the Greens gain 15 seats last Thursday than the BNP gain 1- perhaps this is the sign of things to come :wink:
6 May, 2007 at 9:43 pm #269133Oh … so Tommy, you’ve spotted that Emma has tried to distract us all from the amazing result that her beloved BNP has achieved by diverting the thread onto a boring and repetitive whining about the definition of racism.
To answer your question Tommy …. no they are not only NOT in power, they don’t even control the petty cash in one of the smallest and least significant councils in the country.
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