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@bat wrote:
Reading about the boyfriend, he apparantly can,t read or write, but he can text on his mobile!!!
Apparantly he was bullied as a child so he thought he,d try and “toughen the baby up” a bit, so that he could look after himself when he was older.
Meanwhile these bloody useless clipboard carrying gonks do nothing. Sod all. I don,t know how they sleep nights either. They don,t deserve too. :evil:How many of us have been bullied at school? Picked on, etc.. (Pathetic excuse)..
I won’t even play fight with my son.How do you toughen a baby up?
@woohoo wrote:
@bat wrote:
Reading about the boyfriend, he apparantly can,t read or write, but he can text on his mobile!!!
Apparantly he was bullied as a child so he thought he,d try and “toughen the baby up” a bit, so that he could look after himself when he was older.
Meanwhile these bloody useless clipboard carrying gonks do nothing. Sod all. I don,t know how they sleep nights either. They don,t deserve too. :evil:How many of us have been bullied at school? Picked on, etc.. (Pathetic excuse)..
I won’t even play fight with my son.How do you toughen a baby up?
my schooldays were horendous woo,,,,,something i’d much rather forget,,was the quiet, shy one, was persecuted at school. Didn’t ever! make me turn into what I can’t find the words for.
It’s become, it seems, an excuse, rolled out far too often :twisted: :roll:
@forumhostpb wrote:
Yes I also listened to the reports today including some in depth interviews with the legal and medical people involved…. including the Judge that compiled the report into the Victoria Climbie killing that occurred only a few streets away from this poor child.
It appears that the child’s mother is at the heart of all this. Apparently she lied persistently to everybody about what was going on in the household, to the extent that a Police spokesman said that they had no idea that she had a ”partner” living with her. She covered up everything and constantly offered a variety of stories to explain how her child kept having bruises etc all over it.
It was also said that parents involved in persistent and continuous abuse are extremely clever at concocting lies and suchlike to disguise their crimes.
It was only when her child had been killed (i.e. murdered) by her lover(s) that she finally confessed to the catalogue of abuse to which it had been subjected. She had been visited over 100 times in the previous 3 months alone by doctors, nurses, social workers etc etc and it seems that none of them were aware of the true situation inside her house and which she expertly covered up with lie after lie.
PB
Isnt that identical to the Climbie case- lots of different agencies and no one talking to each other? No one could explain 50 different injuries away IF the agencies had continually spoken to each other about the visits they have undertaken.
It seems the police were the only agency who had taken anything from the Climbie case but were over ruled by social workers.
What no-one has mentioned on here and which is making more angry than anything is the conviction.
They were NOT convicted on murder, manslaughter, GBH, torture, ABH or any directly violent other crime but simply “allowing the death of a baby”- this crime carries a SUSPENDED sentence or a few months in prison.
Yes, I fully understand the charge and the fact that a single injury could not be proven to have caused the death so they didnt charge with murder (even though its barking) but their conviction was on the weakest charge possible.
They have, in effect, got away with murder- just watch in a few weeks when the sentence is passed.
total and utter fu/ck up
Bloody good point there Slayer, I hadn,t thought of that. It will indeed be very interesting when the “sentence” is passed in a few weeks.
One thing however we can be certain of, is that once inside, the other prisoners will deal out their own form of punishment given half a chance. And the prison guards will turn a blind eye to it. Even the most hardened criminals hate crimes against kids with a passion. They,ll get their comeupance one way or the other. Lets hope it,s a painful one. Bastards. :evil:
If they get that far!!
They were actually found NOT guilty of murder or manslaughter (I hadnt picked up on that either).
Ulitmately Bat, they will be released in a year or so (if sentenced to prison) and they will go on their way- free to do whatever they wish.
There is often little justice for little ones in our world.
Apparantly this poor little mites “mother”, has boasted she,ll be home by Christmas!! The police have said that neither of these monsters has shown one tiny bit of remorse. Oh they are feeling very sorry for themselves, but the baby?? Not a chance in hell.
And that bloody Mrs Shoesmith has said that not only is she not resigning, but none of her team will be loosing their jobs either. This is despite the fact that ALL of the useless incompetent gonks missed that childs injuries. They make me sick the lot of them. :evil: :evil:
@bat wrote:
Bloody good point there Slayer, I hadn,t thought of that. It will indeed be very interesting when the “sentence” is passed in a few weeks.
One thing however we can be certain of, is that once inside, the other prisoners will deal out their own form of punishment given half a chance. And the prison guards will turn a blind eye to it. Even the most hardened criminals hate crimes against kids with a passion. They,ll get their comeupance one way or the other. Lets hope it,s a painful one. Bastards. :evil:
Bat they’d be segregated from fellow prisoners for their own safety. People inside tho often and do still, find a way!,,,,let’s hope so in the case of these 3.I read your link again where it said the mother had boasted to ”freinds”,,,,she has freinds!!!??,,,i’d have to say that i’d feel the same contempt for anyone who called themselves ‘freinds’ of theirs as I do them. Sadly though Bat, with the charges brought, what she says could well be true. :? I read a lot of the responses on that link too, one of them from Ilford posted a letter which he’d written to his own MP, and calling for others to do the same, calling for a full public inquiry into Mrs Shoesmith, and anyone else who had dealings with this case. It’s really not good enough to know that that child was visited over 60 times, and his injuries were missed. They have the responsibility of the job and should therefore be held accountable when they go wrong, as would we all, in whatever job we may hold. The peadiatrician who also ‘missed’ his injuries, should be struck off!! what kind of doctor is she that she missed broken ribs!!!
Anyway, personally, I will be writing to my own MP. Not only agreeing that a full inquiry should take place, but the sacking of that woman too,,,,not asking her to resign, sacking her!! :twisted:
Just a thought
I dunno whether PB might know, but if a full public inquiry were to be granted, would this open up the police investigation into this case and if so, would it make a difference to the charges against these three. Would the police then be able to charge them with the systematic murder of this child, or at the very least, manslaughter?
@tinkerbell wrote:
Lock them both up and throw away the key. America have the right idea with the death penalty… but that will never happen in this country. Incidents like this really upset me I didn’t click on the link for that reason but instead heard it all on the news by accident when flicking through channels.
Yes I know Tinkerbell, it is upsetting isn,t it? I can,t bear to think about what that poor child went through.
Iv’e followed the lead of some of the posters on the link today and mailed my own MP. Have simply said that i’m disgusted at the whole scenario, the appalling statements made by that woman, who shouldn’t be asked to resign, who should be sacked! along with anyone else who had dealings with this case.
Iv’e also said that I feel that the peadiatrician, who examined that little boy, days before his death, be struck off!,,,,,,,how can someone who calls themselves a doctor ”miss” broken ribs!
None of it will bring this baby back. If tho, a public inquiry is called and it also re-opens the police investigation into the whole matter, brings further, more serious charges against his abusers, and the sacking of all those in supposed authority, it would be a small justice.
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