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Take it I.B.M hasnt had his morning bottle of cooking sherry as hes still a bit mardy.Like all your posts its all about your view and thoughts.And for the 2nd time i havent been here for 20yrs so PLEASE stop making things up about me you sad old man
The thicko from Somerset is jumping up and down like a yo yo, clapping his hands excitedly like a seal, because he “assumes” he has “won” a jc debate for the first time in his miserable existence.
British law is quite specific as to what entails ‘grooming’.
The term grooming was coined to reflect the growing problem of those who use online facilities to talk to children with the ultimate goal of meeting them for the purpose of committing a sex offence. However, any communication with a child for the purpose of abusing them – in person or otherwise – is legally considered to be grooming.
Sexual Offences Act 2003
Section 14
Under the Sexual offences Act 2003 (SOA 2003), s 14, it is an offence to arrange a meeting with a child under 16, for oneself or someone else, with the intent of sexually abusing the child. A person commits such an offence if:
- they intentionally arrange or facilitate something that they intend to do, intend another person to do, or believe that another person will do, in any part of the world; and
- doing it will involve the commission of an offence under any of ss 9 to 13 of SOA 2003 (ie, sexual activity with a child; causing or inciting a child to engage in sexual activity; engaging in sexual activity in the presence of a child; or causing a child to watch a sexual act).
Someone found guilty of this offence will, on summary conviction, face up to six months imprisonment and/or a fine. If they are convicted in the Crown Court the maximum prison sentence is 14 years.
Thin..
It was predictive text and you know it!
Thus is actually a good thread, I’m learning something here and I’m actually reconsidering my position on this, don’t spoil it with cheap digs.
Ge… you miss my point. I worry about how safe it would be if she came back. How would We, and her, be protected? She’d have to be provided for and that would cost.
Btw, this has nothing to do with her faith, colour, race. It’s about her openly supporting terrorists.
Ge… you miss my point. I worry about how safe it would be if she came back. How would We, and her, be protected? She’d have to be provided for and that would cost. Btw, this has nothing to do with her faith, colour, race. It’s about her openly supporting terrorists.
I don’t miss your point at all, you don’t have a point. So called adults dismissing child grooming so flippantly, the sexual exploitation of children and then suggesting also that they are benefit scroungers specifically because they are Muslim. 15 year old girls, children.
Secondly, Britain already provides safe haven to convicted terrorists, that is people who HAVE been convicted of terorism in a court of law and I guess that is acceptable to some people because their skin colour is white.
She is an extremist, I’d be saying the same whether she was Christian, Muslim, Hindu, any religion or atheist.
It scares me, innocent people, children die because of beliefs like hers.
If she really does want out, why? Because she’s on the losing side? Or does she really want out?
If she was groomed (and yes, that’s very likely) it doesn’t negate her actions. Will she cooperate, help bring her fellow comrades to justice?
I’m trying to understand why she did what she did. Is she really just saying she supports the extremists? She showed her face, for which she got death threats, so maybe she really is just a scared little girl. I guess I just have a hard time understanding the mindset of people who commit such carnage.
She has seen beheadings and it doesn’t bother her? Seriously? I caught 5 seconds of a beheading video posted on another forum and those 5 seconds will forever haunt me.
The more I read the more conflicted I become. If she really was groomed and she genuinely wants to escape then she has to be accountable.
I’m trying to understand why she did what she did. Is she really just saying she supports the extremists? She showed her face, for which she got death threats, so maybe she really is just a scared little girl. I guess I just have a hard time understanding the mindset of people who commit such carnage.
She has seen beheadings and it doesn’t bother her? Seriously? I caught 5 seconds of a beheading video posted on another forum and those 5 seconds will forever haunt me.
The more I read the more conflicted I become. If she really was groomed and she genuinely wants to escape then she has to be accountable.
She said that she had never seen beheadings, but she did say that seeing a pile of heads in a bin hadn’t fazed her because they were enemies of Islam. She wasn’t exactly helping her cause with those statements.
But who’s to say she’s telling the truth?
The fact is, nem, that none of us know, watching her from afar.
And there are several hundred ISIS people who have returned – not all of them have repented. They’re Brits – so they have to be treated like potential Brit terrorists and monitored. We’re not allowed to make them st6ateless.
She will come here eventually because Javid has almost certainly illegally stripped her of her citizenship. She’ll be held accountable once she returns.
The crucial fact to me isn’t so much her fate as the fact that that the blood of her baby is on British hands. Like Paigey, I do not accept that it was too dangerous to rescue the baby. That is bullshyte. You turn up at the camp, ask for the SDF (who run the camp) to bring her and her baby, and you return them to their home in Britain. There decisions could have been made about the safety of the baby.
The baby was known to be in danger. Its safety should have been paramount.
Nemesis who knows in today’s society what right or wrong thing to do especially when you consider the many risks for the individual and society.
Most people at age 15 still very vulnerable. Not experienced enough or exposed to the world. Exciting..new challenges..she did that. Was groomed..accepted..
Bottom line..she now a risk and was a risk once she opted to leave. If in a refugee camp ISIS retaliation fear of what she may expose, she at risk..goes back to u.k. security risk as well as those who will retaliate against her for crimes her husband committed..
Doing some research she and 2 others went over with her. One other said died..where is her third friend? They married too? Where their children? Something smells. And she has no remorse or is bothered by beheadings. So she is a mental health risk as well..she has basically grown into adulthood with a cult behavior so to speak. Hard to break pattern when escaping..
Sorry for her loss..I agree..she has grown up now. May be more dangerous now then before. As with children who are groomed to hate and carry guns at age 6 or younger..so are vulnerable young people. She has to be detoxed which will cost the u.k. people their hard earned dollars. Like the many who come in.
By the way..our government now looking for Bin Laden’s son. Apparently growing up he now taking over father’s spot..how lovely..so he protected..hidden all these years in u.s.a… has disappeared.. did he get it out of his system living in the land of the free. He supported by our dollars and his family too. Now in his 30’s…
Doing some research she and 2 others went over with her. One other said died..where is her third friend? They married too? Where their children? Something smells.
Hmmm….
something certainly smells…
Now let’s say that the third woman also has a baby, or a toddler. And she wants to come home. And the baby/toddler is also in danger.
Not inconceivable. In one camp just set up outside the last ISIS stronghold in Syria, 62 children have died .
Now what is the reaction? You still going to let the children die?
That seems to real question, because sooner or later the grown woman will return to Britain.
Everybody (well some) says that their heart goes out to the innocent baby of Shemima Begum, but it’s a bit late now. The baby is dead.
You going to let the other baby die? And your heart go out once the baby is dead???
Nem, you ready to answer that??
Linda will. So the 62 children who have died all same mother? I am aware one wants to come back here to Alabama child young o.k. supposedly….you can not blame your Country or any other Country for death of children living in poor conditions…be real. What of the poor Countries whom children die of disease and malnutrient. Where are your humanitarian..good will.. so drop off supplies to these camps..fgs..we bomb places who you think rebuilds. U.S.A.
So point I am making..only 2 wanted to leave the camp for well fair of children. Where those other mothers who had loss..62 many..would you not agree?
Regardless of the nasty comments made on nemesis opinions and so forth other comments cruel.. I too admit it is difficult especially for a woman’s view who have had children of their own. You not think we don’t have emotions for children..it is natural. Awful loss agree. Is this the expression “casualty of war!” As said before..children always suffer..adult actions. They very innocent indeed!
Sleeper cells all over. I not want to invite extra in for cup of tea!
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