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18 October, 2012 at 1:24 pm #512957
I just saw on the news that the owners of a b&b who refused to let a gay couple stay in the same ‘double’ bed have been fined under an equality law.
Now, I don’t normally have much of an opinion about gays and blah, but in this case, I do. It is b&b’s owners’ home – not a hotel chain – and as they also pointed out, it is up to them who they allow to stay, and in this case, as they have children, they felt that for two men to share a ‘double bed’ was against their christian beliefs. I’m sorry, but I agree with them – the couple could have gone elsewhere or had twin beds or different rooms. The £3,500 they now have to cough up in compensation is probably a year’s worth of profit. They are thinking of appealing – I think they should.
I am not a homophobic in the slightest either!
18 October, 2012 at 1:30 pm #512958When they made their home a B&B it ceased being their home and became a business, making them subject to the same equality laws as all other businesses.
18 October, 2012 at 10:38 pm #512959@anc wrote:
I am not a homophobic in the slightest either!
Your friends and family must be very proud. :wink:
18 October, 2012 at 10:55 pm #512960@anc wrote:
I just saw on the news that the owners of a b&b who refused to let a gay couple stay in the same ‘double’ bed have been fined under an equality law.
Now, I don’t normally have much of an opinion about gays and blah, but in this case, I do. It is b&b’s owners’ home – not a hotel chain – and as they also pointed out, it is up to them who they allow to stay, and in this case, as they have children, they felt that for two men to share a ‘double bed’ was against their christian beliefs. I’m sorry, but I agree with them – the couple could have gone elsewhere or had twin beds or different rooms. The £3,500 they now have to cough up in compensation is probably a year’s worth of profit. They are thinking of appealing – I think they should.
I am not a homophobic in the slightest either!
This story sounds similar to the one in Cornwall anc a couple of years ago.
Whether their home was used as a business or not, i agree with you, if their religion didn’t allow it they should be allowed to refuse, i havent read this particular story, but the one in Cornwall stated on their booking form they only accepted married couples to share a bed, as their beliefs meant they didn’t believe in sex before marriage, this applied to hetrosexuals also. They were fined i believe, which to me is wrong it was on the booking form, they should have read the details and booked somewhere else.
I also am not homophobic btw, if i was an unmarried hetrosexual and arrived at a place that didn’t accept that i would respect their beliefs, apologise for my error and go elsewhere.18 October, 2012 at 11:16 pm #512961whatever peoples choice on their sexuality does it do anyone good to try and make fun of it?
Be it male male, female female, or male female does it really make any difference if it makes the partners happy?
Sadly some have to make it an issue
18 October, 2012 at 11:22 pm #512962@(f)politics? wrote:
@anc wrote:
I just saw on the news that the owners of a b&b who refused to let a gay couple stay in the same ‘double’ bed have been fined under an equality law.
Now, I don’t normally have much of an opinion about gays and blah, but in this case, I do. It is b&b’s owners’ home – not a hotel chain – and as they also pointed out, it is up to them who they allow to stay, and in this case, as they have children, they felt that for two men to share a ‘double bed’ was against their christian beliefs. I’m sorry, but I agree with them – the couple could have gone elsewhere or had twin beds or different rooms. The £3,500 they now have to cough up in compensation is probably a year’s worth of profit. They are thinking of appealing – I think they should.
I am not a homophobic in the slightest either!
This story sounds similar to the one in Cornwall anc a couple of years ago.
Whether their home was used as a business or not, i agree with you, if their religion didn’t allow it they should be allowed to refuse, i havent read this particular story, but the one in Cornwall stated on their booking form they only accepted married couples to share a bed, as their beliefs meant they didn’t believe in sex before marriage, this applied to hetrosexuals also. They were fined i believe, which to me is wrong it was on the booking form, they should have read the details and booked somewhere else.
I also am not homophobic btw, if i was an unmarried hetrosexual and arrived at a place that didn’t accept that i would respect their beliefs, apologise for my error and go elsewhere.Completely different issue here to the one I replied to before
If the people who offered the accommodation to the people concerned then I would feel that they had the right to refuse the booking if their booking conditions covered that
18 October, 2012 at 11:56 pm #512963@jen_jen wrote:
Hmmmm…I’ve had a few printers refuse to do my printing because they are “born-again Christian and don’t hold with heathens and pagans”…could I have sued them for emotional distress as they were discriminating on grounds of religion (even though I’m not a heathen or pagan)? Now there’s a thought…
Change your printers then! I would.
19 October, 2012 at 6:53 am #512964We’re all different, but all human.
I don’t thnk it strange to see two men kissing one another passionately, or getting upset because the other is hurt. Two women ditto. We all have longings and desires.
If two bigots in a b&b are so uptight that they use Jesus to cover their hatred, then the two gay guys should think themselves lucky to have missed an unpleasant situation.
But unfortunately it doesn’t stop there, does it?
Nick Griffin, the BNP fuhrer and MEP, has tweeted the address of the two gays and called for a demonstration outside their home – apparently, as the cops are looking into it and tweeter have suspended his account. It’s not free speech as much as provocation to breachng the peace and possible violence, as quite a few people look at two men who love one another and want to hurt them.
You wouldn’t want to hurt two men, just because they love one another, would you Terry???
19 October, 2012 at 8:20 am #512965The original question was how to get out of paying compo for being a bigot…
So if I was gay and I sensed the photographer didn’t want to do the job purely because he was homophobic, I certainly wouldn’t want him there either…and I would perhaps write a message on his website or his facebook following and simply say that this person doesn’t do gay weddings and my opinion on his decision….what a luxury in this day and age to turn away business….not sure I would persue compensation….if I was so touchy I would have compo claims left right and center from prejudice
However….it is everyones right to refuse a service they provide for any reason they wish I guess…rightly or wrongly…the only drawback is we live in a compo age now and some solicitor WILL TAKE UP THE CLAIM
19 October, 2012 at 10:52 am #512966Nick Griffin jumps on the publicity bandwagon with his tweets:
Two of the posts read: “So Messrs Black & Morgan, at [their address]. A British Justice team will come up to Huntington & give you a…” then “…bit of drama by way of reminding you that an English couple’s home is their castle. Say No to heterophobia!.”
So…”give you a bit of a drama”…sounds like a threat to me.
But then the irony, he tweets their home address, calls for a demo giving said bit of drama to “remind you that an English couple’s home is their castle”.
Ummmm….this is an English couple, is their home not their castle? Or does that only apply to heterosexual couples?
The couple are donating their compensation to charity.
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