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Baroness Warsi has said it’s time for the minorities to join in Maypoles, harvest festivals, Christmas carols.
The Minister for Faith and Communities calls for Britons of all religions to join in festivities.
She also wants to scrap classroom assistants helping children who cannot speak English.
She said multilingual forms at hospitals and authorities encourages people not to bother to learn English.
What do you think? Is she right?
i wish children of all religions would take part in christian RE lessons and celebrations as in primary schools parts of the hindu, jewish and muslim religions are taught as part of the curriculum.
in the school where i work we have some children where english is their second language and to help them there are support workers that come in……..this help them such a lot and also gives them the chance to talk to someone of their own nationality
i think baroness warsi has her work cut out
I think religion should be cut out of schools and the workplace completely.
I didn’t go to Church schools but every morning we had assembly, bible reading and a hymn. It was indoctrination.
I think religious worship should be a private matter for families.
@panda12 wrote:
I think religion should be cut out of schools and the workplace completely.
I agree. Religion is just another excuse for a war and the less said about it the better.
@tinks wrote:
in the school where i work we have some children where english is their second language and to help them there are support workers that come in……..this help them such a lot and also gives them the chance to talk to someone of their own nationality
i think baroness warsi has her work cut out
I don’t think a child who cannot converse properly in English should be in mainstream education until they are fluent.
Surely it would be better that they learn to read, write and speak English first for their sake as well as that of the other children and the teacher?
Differentiation in the classroom and writing lesson plans to incorporate differing abilities is hard enough for a teacher.
@panda12 wrote:
@tinks wrote:
in the school where i work we have some children where english is their second language and to help them there are support workers that come in……..this help them such a lot and also gives them the chance to talk to someone of their own nationality
i think baroness warsi has her work cut out
I don’t think a child who cannot converse properly in English should be in mainstream education until they are fluent.
Surely it would be better that they learn to read, write and speak English first for their sake as well as that of the other children and the teacher?
Differentiation in the classroom and writing lesson plans to incorporate differing abilities is hard enough for a teacher.
panda in an ideal world i think you’re right but at home these children don’t get the support they need from their families……….some parents have no intention of learning english themselves as their friendship groups are so close-knit they don’t see it as important………what chance would the children have?
I don’t believe any child should be made to take part in religious festivals …..regardless of their faith!
I have a gripe about RE in schools ….. I personally believe and wish my children had been given a better understanding of other cultures to their own as a whole rather than the focus being purely on faith!
She also wants to scrap classroom assistants helping children who cannot speak English
My sons girlfriend is a primary school teacher…. she has a class of 27 children 11 of whom are “Special Needs” kids ..
Special needs is a child who has special education needs and has significantly greater difficulty in learning than the majority of children the same age… or a child who has a disability that hinders them from making full use of educational facilities.
As you can imagine the needs are many and varied but mainly language skills or lack of them….additionally some of the kids are in the “At Risk” category…. all this for a young teacher hardly more than a girl herself…. with one part time teaching assistant!
Now I’m all for integration into mainstream education …..but as she says her job is impossible… the area the school is in has very little parental involvement with a high percentage of English as a second language households….. I would like to see the baroness explain to my sons girlfriend how its possible for her to lose her teaching assistant? I fear for all the kids in this class… its a nightmare really. Where will it end!!!!
@mrs_teapot wrote:
She also wants to scrap classroom assistants helping children who cannot speak English
My sons girlfriend is a primary school teacher…. she has a class of 27 children 11 of whom are “Special Needs” kids ..
Special needs is a child who has special education needs and has significantly greater difficulty in learning than the majority of children the same age… or a child who has a disability that hinders them from making full use of educational facilities.
As you can imagine the needs are many and varied but mainly language skills or lack of them….additionally some of the kids are in the “At Risk” category…. all this for a young teacher hardly more than a girl herself…. with one part time teaching assistant!
Now I’m all for integration into mainstream education …..but as she says her job is impossible… the area the school is in has very little parental involvement with a high percentage of English as a second language households….. I would like to see the baroness explain to my sons girlfriend how its possible her lose her teaching assistant? I fear for all the kids in this class… its a nightmare really. Where will it end!!!!
It’s OK, calm down.
The millionaire David Cameron says we are all in it together.
Perhaps she will be rescued by the big society.
Let’s spend less on pesky luxuries like children’s education so that the fittest can survive. Oh and who will those be? That’s right the ones who are already rich or can force their way through regardless.
Don’t worry. Those who can pay will still get a quality education and health service. It’s just those scroungers who wont.
And ol’ Davie says the class war is so passé. Everyone is just one big happy society. But yet the class war is still alive and being fought between those at the lower end of the income scale – between those who have a little and those who have nothing. Those who have a little see the ones with nothing as scroungers who will take their little away from them, while the commercial rich stand back, watch and take the profits.
We are also seeing the commercial rich turning on the middle class professionals who (surprise surprise) tend to vote Labour. Burn the BBC. Sack as many senior public servants as possible. Make everyone frightened. No no, this isn’t a war.
There aren’t enough rich people to vote the Tories in, but there are plenty of frightened people who have a little, who will vote for them. And this, despite the fact that the Tories are strangling their ability to ever have more, by dismantling education and health – the most powerful tools we have to create a level playing field.
I would never have thought it. I really thought for a while that Fukuyama might be right, and that the old style left/right, rich/poor, capitalist/socialist stuff from the 19th and 20th centuries had passed. I almost believed that we shared a different type of conviction about making capitalism work for everyone; that Labour and the Tories differed on the tactics but not on their aspirations for a just society.
I was wrong. We have a government for the rich and a terrified population blaming each other for problems caused not by scroungers, but by the failures of the current version of capitalism. We are all suffering as capitalism is reborn. And the haves will make sure they are still the haves once the crisis has passed.
Bye bye fairness. Bye bye social justice. Bye bye any chance at social mobility. Hello dog eat dog world.
At least we’ll be leaner, fitter and wiser.
What a world for our children.
OK – off for a lie down now.
:lol:
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