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6 April, 2012 at 11:09 am #17459
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-17626133
From today large shops in England will not be able to display tobacco products (small shops from 2015), they will be relegated to under the counter. The idea is that if it’s not visible then people (particularly young people) won’t think about it and won’t smoke.
The article has a quote:
“We cannot ignore the fact that young people are recruited into smoking by colourful, eye-catching, cigarette displays.
“Most adult smokers started smoking as teenagers and we need to stop this trend.”
Really? Do people really start smoking because the cigarettes come in a pretty packet?
Large shops = supermarkets…I doubt that the “young people” this is aimed at buy their ciggarettes in the supermarket anyway so there’ll be little impact on them until the small shops are stopped in 2015.
And is pushing it under the counter really going to make a difference?I smoked for a little while when I was younger, fortunately not long enough to get addicted. It was a misguided attempt to fit in with the “in crowd”, nothing to do with colours of packets or fancy displays, I didn’t really enjoy it though so I stopped trying to fit in!
What do you think? Will it make much difference?
Note: I’m not asking what you think about smoking so the smoker-bashers can put away their soapboxes, I’m asking whether you think the ban on displaying cigarettes will really make that much difference.
6 April, 2012 at 11:21 am #493032Course not – if the kids want them they will go to a newsagent..It gonna be another 3 years before they have to cover them up in the sweet shops – well round here anyway…
Its not that..but asking for them in the supermarket, you dont even know if they have gone up! thats what pees me off! I mean I bought a packet the other week, and until they scanned them, I didnt know they had gone up by 40p, by that time how could you say, well I dont want them now?
The latest is they wanna stop people smoking in there own homes..how? I agree about the kiddies, but what if you dont have them?
If they are that anti ciggies..BAN them all together..but of course they wont..Tory fookers!
6 April, 2012 at 11:24 am #493033Somthing that riles me is this Jen…
When children are determined to smoke..they will……..they hang outside shops asking adults to buy their ciggies for them….they ask older friends…and I even have had parents coming in buyin for them….They do not stand at the counter paying for their sweeties…get distracted by ciggie packets and think I NEED A FAG AND MUST SMOKE..
I do not smoke……..only on very rare occasions I will have a few..usually when I am paraletic (no jokes about it being all the time then!) ..I stand infront of a gangtry most days..for hours at a time…and do not fancy a ciggie…infact the fact I have the odd one would probably mean I would fancy one just by looking at them etc…
They will probably not have to be hidden under the counter but the gantry’s shutters will have to be put down when no one is purchasing…there is talk that a small window displaying a small sample of 10’s may be allowed….not sure yet….
Retailers have campaigned tirelessly about this….with the help of NRFN (the fed to the ctn world I call it)
I have many customes who especially in this day and age stand there comparing prices before they make their purchase..and why shouldn’t they? It is their money they are spending they are entitled to spend it how they please….however if the ciggies have to be hidden under the counter it will be impossible for retailers to list prices etc…the customer will be asked to make a choice..or go elsewhere I expect…but elsewhere will be the same….then the FED raised many health issues…for the retailer…the constant bending down will lead to back problems and most probably compensation claims…there is also the security aspect of taking away your awareness from the shop floor to concentrate on prices and finding the flipping things stored away6 April, 2012 at 11:28 am #493034someone was telling me that Sainsbury are already trialing this.. a joiner built cabinet surrounds the cigarettes and the assistant has to open it every time someone asks for cigs, causing a massive hold up and mucho tutting. IF they have to go ahead with it they should build seperate kiosks,as they tend to sell sweeties,lottery tickets etc.
was there not talk of putting them in plain packets as the razzle dazzle of embassy regal blue was making folks smoke. :wink:6 April, 2012 at 11:49 am #493035The government no-one voted for has put more energy into measures that will at best make no difference to anyone and at worst hurt the most vulnerable. Good, innit?
6 April, 2012 at 12:56 pm #493036@rubyred wrote:
someone was telling me that Sainsbury are already trialing this.. a joiner built cabinet surrounds the cigarettes and the assistant has to open it every time someone asks for cigs, causing a massive hold up and mucho tutting. IF they have to go ahead with it they should build seperate kiosks,as they tend to sell sweeties,lottery tickets etc.
was there not talk of putting them in plain packets as the razzle dazzle of embassy regal blue was making folks smoke. :wink:Asda here have had the ciggarettes off display for about 5 or 6 weeks now , on the counter they have a price list on a stand
6 April, 2012 at 1:08 pm #493037Over here none of the shops at all are aloud to display advertisment for sigs.
in fact, there is absaloutly no sig advertisment at all, not on bus shelters or bill boards etc.as for the under the counter thing??
every shop in Ireland has the sigs in a vending maching directly behind the till’s.
no bending down or distraction required.I have to say, when it first came into effect in Ireland, I honestly didnt think it would make any difference at all.
but you would be surprised.
Not having sig advertisment all over the place really makes you more aware that you are a smoker, and it does actually make you think twice wanting to smoke.
The ban on sig advertisment puts smokers into a thighter box.
Instead of it being somthing that makes you look “cool” …the ban actually makes you feel like the addicted that smokers are.Im a smoker.. 40 a day, and with out me even noticing it to much, I find my self smoking differntly since the advertisment ban came in.
So from my experience,….. it wil make a difference :wink:
6 April, 2012 at 1:27 pm #493038@jenndudess1 wrote:
Over here none of the shops at all are aloud to display advertisment for sigs.
in fact, there is absaloutly no sig advertisment at all, not on bus shelters or bill boards etc.
. . . . . . So from my experience,….. it wil make a difference :wink:That’s good news jenn, I’ve never smoked and I don’t like smoking, but I try not to condemn people out of hand. I hope it works here too.
6 April, 2012 at 1:45 pm #493039Supermarkets here have all got shutters infront of the ciggy shelves and have had for a good 6 months……..the smaller shops still have everything on view.
6 April, 2012 at 1:46 pm #493040small shops or “offys” as i call them,it wont affect them till 2015.
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