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Already we can see what this type of law creates, confusion, resentment and more disturbing, an even bigger rift between the faithful. We must really consider when these laws are created and enacted, just what public service they carry out and indeed if they are actually in the public interest. If the burkha is forbidden, the criminal will then go on to use other methods, the materials i have pointed out fall into this category. If they then use these materials, for instance, wigs and cosmetics to disguise themselves, will we ban cosmetics and wigs??? If this were to happen there would be a revolution, the streets would be littered with women screaming injustice..
The burkha is used by the muslimah in conjuntion with Islamic instruction, the outline of the female figure should not be able to be distinguished and she should dress with modesty and lower her gaze. The veil is not compulsory and is strictly a personal choice.
This law then is an afront to personal freedom, in this case a freedom to express religious submission through the covering of the face.@kent f OBE wrote:
Oh….reading this thread this morning I see Gazlan found his voice again :lol:
I see ive found my way into your thoughts again :lol:
Security is my upper most argument too Mellers….but the other points one rule for one and one for another also gets my goat, even though I am one of the minorty who are allowed an exception. Being Sikh my child is allowed to wear his Kara (bangle) to school if he wishes but I don’t allow him to wear it as others are not allowed to wear their crosses etc. It is not imperitive he wears it as he is not a baptised Sikh. Having said that there are many boys in his school who do wear their Kara’s.
My sister is a manager of a well known store which is part of a large chain across the country. She runs their flagship store in Kent. They are not allowed to wear sleevless tops because showing their armpits is seen as offensive for some reason :lol: The chain is owned by an American company!!!@gazlan wrote:
That being the case jen, we should remove all literature and reference books from public buildings and establishments, including schools and colleges right ?
How on earth do you come to that conclusion based on what I typed?
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That being the case jen, we should remove all literature and reference books from public buildings and establishments, including schools and colleges right ?
How on earth do you come to that conclusion based on what I typed?
Because he only see’s what he wants to see. He harps on about gathering information when he can’t even gather a piece of thread :lol:
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That being the case jen, we should remove all literature and reference books from public buildings and establishments, including schools and colleges right ?
How on earth do you come to that conclusion based on what I typed?
Do you think for one instant that any information i recieve is not cross referenced, when i refer to research, it is exactly that. There is much information out there, it is the responsibility of those who choose to use that information to establish its authenticity. The vast amount of detailed information on the interweb is gathered from the very same reference books available in our libraries and schools.
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@jen_jen wrote:
@gazlan wrote:
That being the case jen, we should remove all literature and reference books from public buildings and establishments, including schools and colleges right ?
How on earth do you come to that conclusion based on what I typed?
Do you think for one instant that any information i recieve is not cross referenced, when i refer to research, it is exactly that. There is much information out there, it is the responsibility of those who choose to use that information to establish its authenticity. The vast amount of detailed information on the interweb is gathered from the very same reference books available in our libraries and schools.
That doesn’t explain why you suggest that all literature and reference books should be removed from schools based on what I typed.
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As far as research goes and the use of the interweb for information, where on earth do you suppose information originates ????? Where does the information contained in the billions of books in this world come from ????? It comes from historical informative sources….If for one instant you discredit this information gathered in these books then basically, you are a fool…. Little wonder then the youth of this country, have all but turned their backs on authority and politics and we now live in some of the most morally declining times ever in this country :roll:
I disagree. If you take all the information you find in books, newspapers, the internet and so on as gospel and don’t question and discredit when appropriate, then you are a fool.
After all, what do you do when you encounter several sources on the same subject saying different and contradictary things? Do you accept them all?
And you know full well that Florrie’s post was not intended to be concerned about the clothing worn under the burkha in a fashion sense but to point out the hypocrisy of people who decry the West and all its finery when it suits them and their public face, then embrace the West when it suits them and their private lives. Don’t you?
Just in case you forget what I typed and why, I was challenging your statement “If for one instant you discredit this information gathered in these books then basically, you are a fool”.
Just in case you forget what I typed and why, I was challenging your statement “If for one instant you discredit this information gathered in these books then basically, you are a fool”.
Only fool would not check authenticity and believe first hand any information gathered. The books i refer to are books generally available for reference and information, hence the ” historical informative sources” remark. I will repeat, if you discredit information in these books then you would be a fool, unless of course you can show with evidence ant alternative
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