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11 November, 2006 at 2:53 am #248001
I live on a council estate in Reading. ALL of the problems we have here are caused by young WHITE BRITISH males!
11 November, 2006 at 10:09 am #248002@peeved wrote:
@jelly tot wrote:
@peeved wrote:
Whilst I do not agree with mixing race, I do feel sorry for them.
Peeved that has got to be one of the most stupid and insulting things to say, mixed race people don’t want your pity, only respect that is due to all.
I am having an opinion, don’t get your knickers in a twist, a friend of mine is a very mixed up individual, being a mixed race male is hard for him, I take it you are white and have no experience of adults that are traumatised by their race issues.
Answer here :arrow:
Peeved My wife is mixed race and so are my kids so I think that gives me the right to have an opinion based on experience.
My knickers are just fine thank you, it’s just that the comments you made are the sort that the BNP love.
I hope your friend sorts his head out, I tell my kids the whole truth about they’re colour and what it means in todays society and they cope fine.
Look at it another way, with global warming apparantley speeding up, we’ll all start to turn black to be able to cope with it. Aint nature wonderful.11 November, 2006 at 10:56 am #248003Can we pls stop going on about this now?
We have had posts about this subjet for the last year and its getting very old now.
11 November, 2006 at 11:18 am #248004@Ow£n Ka$h wrote:
I live on a council estate in Reading. ALL of the problems we have here are caused by young WHITE BRITISH males!
You’re quite happy to live on an estate with white british people though :wink:
11 November, 2006 at 12:25 pm #248005@emmalush wrote:
@jelly tot wrote:
Emma, firstly thanks for the honesty in letting me know that I’ll be told to sod off from my own country ( did I read that right?).
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, gosh how many times do i have to explain it, its V O L U N T A R Y, YOUR CHOICE, UPTO YOU, IN YOUR OWN HANDS, FOR YOU TO DECIDE, do you understand now?
If you (not anyone else) decide you’d prefer to leave, then you will be helped financially. It is only the wish of the BNP that non whites, non English/british people be helped financially to leave, IF THEY SO WISH TO OF THEIR OWN ACCORD.hypocrisy- who chooses which races stay or go? French out? Americans out? Australians stay? How about a black australian? That would be a tough one- Aussies in but not black aussies! What about a white West Indian? What about the Chinese- they on the list of Griffin’s ark (two by two)
The trouble with the BNP (and its a classic Labour soundbite too)- there is no actual policy which underpins the shallow statement. When you look at the detail, they don’t know who would be “asked” to leave or who would stay. What would happen to anyone who has a mixed race (perhaps going back 5 or 6 generations)- how far back do you go into someones ancestry before saying they can stay? How about the French Hugenots who came in the 18th century to escape Catholic persecution- can their ancestors stay?
Emma – is it English or British? The BNP don’t seem to know and neither do you? Southern Irish stay? Whys that then? What have they got that the Danes havent? The Jews are out too I take it as they are not “christian”.
It is so easy to say “voluntary repatriation” but when you try and get any sense under the shallowness, there is none at all cos there is no policy- just a clever propaganda machine
Absolutely barking (sic)
We all understand what the BNP are about :wink:
11 November, 2006 at 6:08 pm #248006@slayer wrote:
hypocrisy
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, gosh how many times do i have to explain it, its V O L U N T A R Y, YOUR CHOICE, UPTO YOU, IN YOUR OWN HANDS, FOR YOU TO DECIDE, do you understand now?
Gosh you are thick.
Emma – is it English or British?
Whichever you prefer.
Southern Irish stay? Whys that then?
Probably because there very similar people who also share very similar troubles socialy and politicly as we do.
What have they got that the Danes havent?
The danes are similar to us too, but you have to draw the line somewhere.
The Jews are out too I take it as they are not “christian”.
Again, you have to draw a line somewhere, multiculturalism doesn’t work for everyone. We need a society that helps everyone enjoy a better life. Im not christian, i hate christianity, but its the prodomanent religon that this country is based on.
A secular country is what we should aim for, but in order to acheive that, you have to limit religious beliefs first, a gradual process.It is so easy to say “voluntary repatriation” but when you try and get any sense under the shallowness, there is none at all cos there is no policy- just a clever propaganda machine
You saying the BNP are clever, tut tut :D
We all understand what the BNP are about
That sounds like a desperate plea to me.
The thing is slayer mate, just because we have a society which the old gang have inflicted upon us and you have taken on board, doesn’t mean its any good. I want whats best for you, and if we, me and you cannot get along with it, then between us we must help eachother make society better for us all. You cant just say we have this, and you have to lump it if that is not what some folk want.
12 November, 2006 at 11:27 am #248007It appears that there’s been a rise in neo-nazi activity and associated racist attacks across Europe. It seems like history is repeating itself because most people don’t take the issue that seriously just like the potential menace of the far-right in the 1930s was underestimated. Ask yourself whether it would have been better to have crushed right-wing extremists in the 1930s, thereby saving around 55 million lives, or was it better to respect their freedom of speech?
If you think the past could never be repeated, just bear in mind that far-right extremists were members of European coalition governments relatively recently with Jorg Haider (A man who openly praised the SS) even becoming vice-chancellor of Austria.
All this sophistry about “the right to offend” seems pointless to me. The activities of subversives have to be disrupted for the greater public good. Give these people a chance to gain political power and they will strip you of the rights that you try to defend.
12 November, 2006 at 1:01 pm #248008@Mr Bigstuff wrote:
I looked up the figures for UK contribution to the EU and according to the BBC in 2005 “Britain paid 9.97bn euros into the EU budget but received 6.22bn euros in return, so it made a net contribution of about 3.8bn euros.”
Yes, I was waiting for someone to go collect the true facts in response to my sarcastic response to Emma’s figures. Quite a difference from the £14bn (over 21bn in Euros) she quoted. Not that Emma takes all the statements from the BNP website as complete and utter truth, of course – she was only out by about five times over ;)
13 November, 2006 at 3:57 pm #248009@chathostuk wrote:
Yes, I was waiting for someone to go collect the true facts in response to my sarcastic response to Emma’s figures. Quite a difference from the £14bn (over 21bn in Euros) she quoted. Not that Emma takes all the statements from the BNP website as complete and utter truth, of course – she was only out by about five times over ;)
I was quoting the UKIP leader nigel farage who said recently it was approximately £15B.
“…the current estimates put it at £11 billion. The pro-EU Institute of Directors calculated it as more than double – and rising. Indirect costs – complying with regulations, loss of earnings from farming, fishing, etc., raise the overall cost still further.
Withdrawal from the EU would yield Britain a £25 billion Independence Dividend.”
http://www.ukip.org/index.php?menu=10reasons&page=10reasonstoleavetheeumr bigastuff looks to have quoted a break down limited version of cost by a pro european and anti-English media outfit.
So my chathost, next time you wana make yourself look good for the benefit of your website, THINK before you critisize in taking sides with a failed poster :D
The be all of this is, that whatever the net contribution and overall cost to the eu is, its too much, and shows that our political masters have yet again failed in their duties to represent the people who put them there via our taxes.
13 November, 2006 at 10:11 pm #248010@emmalush wrote:
@chathostuk wrote:
Yes, I was waiting for someone to go collect the true facts in response to my sarcastic response to Emma’s figures. Quite a difference from the £14bn (over 21bn in Euros) she quoted. Not that Emma takes all the statements from the BNP website as complete and utter truth, of course – she was only out by about five times over ;)
I was quoting the UKIP leader nigel farage who said recently it was approximately £15B.
“…the current estimates put it at £11 billion. The pro-EU Institute of Directors calculated it as more than double – and rising. Indirect costs – complying with regulations, loss of earnings from farming, fishing, etc., raise the overall cost still further.
Withdrawal from the EU would yield Britain a £25 billion Independence Dividend.”
http://www.ukip.org/index.php?menu=10reasons&page=10reasonstoleavetheeumr bigastuff looks to have quoted a break down limited version of cost by a pro european and anti-English media outfit.
So my chathost, next time you wana make yourself look good for the benefit of your website, THINK before you critisize in taking sides with a failed poster :D
The be all of this is, that whatever the net contribution and overall cost to the eu is, its too much, and shows that our political masters have yet again failed in their duties to represent the people who put them there via our taxes.
Hmmm £25 Billion dividend!
I could go into a cost benefit analysis here on EU membership (and I am not a lover of the EU at all) but to suggest we would be £25 billion better off simply takes the money we pay and says “ooh, we’ll save that” is wrong
But, should we leave, assuming the EU will grant trade rights to the UK (don’t you belive though that the Germans and French won’t get their own back at us and prevent us from selling goods into the EU thereby shrinking our export market by 50%), there is a 1.5% levy on all free trade non EU imported goods. Yes Emma, 1.5%- which means our goods will not only be taxed but also cost more than they already do.
Our economic growth relies on the EU for between 1%-1.5%- if we lose the that growth, we lose up to 3 million jobs with the obvious decrease in national taxable income and increase in the population claiming any benefit they can. This will cost BILLIONS
The EU is a bureaucratic, anally retentive, obsessive organisation which impacts on all our personal lives through hundreds and hundreds of laws however to suggest we leave because we pay a lot and we could save all that money is just barking
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