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22 April, 2012 at 6:15 pm #493852
my birth certificate doesn’t actually say what country i was born in……….only ‘north cotswolds gloucestershire’ with the crown mark……….i’m not a flag waver…..i don’t think theres a lot of ‘great’ when it comes to britain……..i’d like to think i am english.
22 April, 2012 at 6:16 pm #493853@panda12 wrote:
@j_in_france wrote:
@terry wrote:
@panda12 wrote:
Just had an idea – if in doubt check what it says on your passport. :P
Or passports if you have dual nationality.
United Kingdom.
I’m still not British. Being British takes away your identity.
Your identity is you not what country you come from
Depends what Terry means by identity. In this context, I don’t think he’s talking about his name.
Most people assume a different name on here and I am sure you are not called panda in real life – what I referred to was the person behind the name. Every person has an identity whatever their name
22 April, 2012 at 6:34 pm #493854@j_in_france wrote:
@panda12 wrote:
@j_in_france wrote:
@terry wrote:
@panda12 wrote:
Just had an idea – if in doubt check what it says on your passport. :P
Or passports if you have dual nationality.
United Kingdom.
I’m still not British. Being British takes away your identity.
Your identity is you not what country you come from
Depends what Terry means by identity. In this context, I don’t think he’s talking about his name.
Most people assume a different name on here and I am sure you are not called panda in real life – what I referred to was the person behind the name. Every person has an identity whatever their name
I think Terry was talking about his racial / cultural identity, not his given birth name. :roll:
22 April, 2012 at 6:37 pm #493855panda12 wrote:J_in_France wrote:panda12 wrote:J_in_France wrote:Terry wrote:panda12 wrote:Just had an idea – if in doubt check what it says on your passport. :POr passports if you have dual nationality.
United Kingdom.
I’m still not British. Being British takes away your identity.
Your identity is you not what country you come from
Depends what Terry means by identity. In this context, I don’t think he’s talking about his name.
Most people assume a different name on here and I am sure you are not called panda in real life – what I referred to was the person behind the name. Every person has an identity whatever their name
I think Terry was talking about his racial / cultural identity, not his given birth name. :roll:
As I said – Your identity is you not what country you come from
22 April, 2012 at 6:41 pm #493856Never mind.
22 April, 2012 at 6:47 pm #493857Panda’s right; it’s his racial cultural, not his individual identity he’s talking about. The two aren’t contradictory.
Well, England has changed a lot. It’s now multi-cultural, multi-racial, I’m pleased to note. I was born in England to a Welsh mam and an English dad whose family were of Huguenot descent (from Lorraine, apparently). A lot of people are like that. But culturally, I guess my type is the English/British background – reserved, taciturn even, but also very eccentric and quite intellectual (which are not English traits for historical reasons, though Scots have a more intellectual background, and Welsh and Irish as more literary one).
The UK’s not totally integrated, but more so than much of the USA – I was in Boston a few years back having a meal with a group of people, one of whom told us that her Jewish family was freaked because the daughter was marryihng an Eye-talian. Religion as well as ethnic identity was being challenged.
Culture changes – it always has. If you were going to freeze our culture into one moment and stop other cultures coming in and intermingling, then you grow inward-looking and start having problems – think of the Egyptian Pharaohs who were inbred by law – boy did they go strange.
So good on J-in-France, good on panda (half-and-half) and good on cultural change and assimilation
22 April, 2012 at 6:49 pm #493858Its a bit like saying your a whale but not a mammal. :?
22 April, 2012 at 6:53 pm #493859Don’t worry panda I don’t mind at all :roll:
Everyone is an individual with their own views and choices whatever their background origins or ideas and that forms their identity
I might not like that but I can accept their choice but I don’t have to agree with it
22 April, 2012 at 7:24 pm #493860I consider myself British Asian
The options on forms have changed from just British when i was growing up to British blah this British blah that …I have never thought I am English because I am not from English heritage (a debate in the chatroom the other day)..when I was told surely I am English because I was born here…..I disagree
I would imagine if I said I was just British and I was in a room with 10 people…guaranteed at least one person would disagree with me being just British and would probably point out I need to attach my non British tag to make that one person feel what a “proper” British person is….and that is their right if they feel like that ..
I do feel however whilst many people are embracing the British Nationality Status (I mean non white British like me and people from other countries who take British Nationality) the true British must feel a little betrayed that the Nationality is all becoming so open so lose and maybe losing it’s identity as such…Not sure if this confusion is in many other countries
22 April, 2012 at 7:33 pm #493861During the time when half the world was painted red there were a lot of births in various parts of the Commonwealth where the people born were considered British
When those people or their descendants chose to move to the UK because of many and different circumstances that did not change their nationality
Everyone despite creed nor colour has their own identity
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