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15 January, 2008 at 11:09 pm #304179
@sharongooner wrote:
@dagger wrote:
i was at a funeral yesterday
the person that died gave 2 kidneys and a liver
a young girl got a kidney
a 53 year old got the other
and a terminally ill woman got the liver
3 people live on through herI thought those details remained confidential?
He meant on toast for dinner silly… :roll:
16 January, 2008 at 1:42 am #304180People are told somethings Sharon but not the whereabouts/names etc it can be a help to people who are grieving …………… Recipients are asked if they would like to write to the donor family. This letter is given to the co-ordinator who passes it on to the family. No names are involved unless you add your first name when signing it. This isnt done until about two months after the recipient has had the operation. This allows time for both the family to have had initial grieving and the recipient to have had a period of healing.
It is/was in my opinion one of the most heartfelt things i ever had to do….. to express gratitude to people who has suffered a loss yet had the foresight and fortitude to make this hard descision… the strength to carry the legacy of a loved ones life through for the better of a stranger ……You can thank someone for buying you a present but how do you thank them for giving you the ultimate gift of life.
Without great people like these …… there would not be grateful people like me
16 January, 2008 at 6:52 pm #304181@sharongooner wrote:
@dagger wrote:
i was at a funeral yesterday
the person that died gave 2 kidneys and a liver
a young girl got a kidney
a 53 year old got the other
and a terminally ill woman got the liver
3 people live on through herI thought those details remained confidential?
the priest or chaplain whatever the f,uck he was
announced it as part of his service it was a subject she felt strongly about
he didnt read out the names of the recipents
you stupid ba,stard
the family recieved a letter from the donor co-ordinator17 January, 2008 at 6:07 pm #304182In this country, when someone dies in say a road traffic accident, the doctors and nurses have to see if they can find a donor card, and if they can’t find one, ask the relatives (who would be understandably distraught) if they could harvest organs. So not as many organs are harvested for donation as if we used the system they use in some other countries in Europe.
For example, in Holland, Belgium, Germany and I think France, organs are automatically harvested unless the deceased has specifically asked that they are not taken, or if the family immediately state that they don’t want that to happen. They therefore have far more organs available for transplant than we do.
There are always stringent guidelines for who gets organs that have been donated, as chess has said. It really does depend on whether your tissue types match etc. But if there are more organs available, the chances of getting a good match increase.
17 January, 2008 at 6:22 pm #304183The organs of people killed in road accidents and such like are not viable because of the time lapse between death and and being able to harvest them they have become ischeamic and such like because of depravation of oxygen. So at the minute the only organs that can be harvested are from people who have died whilst in hospital on life support or who have had a an accident and being taken to hospital before death.
Two independant consultants have to proclaim that a person is braindead before a machine can be turned off. This is the time when the co ordinators have to ask families re donorship. I can only imagine the feeling going through their heads at this time pls God it will never be a situation i will ever be in …….but this where the card and register stating the donors wishes are brought to light.
Hence the necessity of letting your family know of your wishes. This would work the same way in the *opt out* system. The donors wishes would be known thus saving valuable time re the organ and indeed another episode of emotional stress for the family at the time
17 January, 2008 at 7:11 pm #304184your right chess my friend had a brain haemorrhage
her wishes were complied with
i think it should be compulsory
dead is dead
3 people and all their families are delighted right now
that brought a lot of comfort to the family and shall remain so17 January, 2008 at 9:08 pm #304185@chess wrote:
The organs of people killed in road accidents and such like are not viable because of the time lapse between death and and being able to harvest them they have become ischeamic and such like because of depravation of oxygen. So at the minute the only organs that can be harvested are from people who have died whilst in hospital on life support or who have had a an accident and being taken to hospital before death.
Two independant consultants have to proclaim that a person is braindead before a machine can be turned off. This is the time when the co ordinators have to ask families re donorship. I can only imagine the feeling going through their heads at this time pls God it will never be a situation i will ever be in …….but this where the card and register stating the donors wishes are brought to light.
Hence the necessity of letting your family know of your wishes. This would work the same way in the *opt out* system. The donors wishes would be known thus saving valuable time re the organ and indeed another episode of emotional stress for the family at the time
Sorry chess, you’re right, I meant those that were involved in road traffic accidents who then later died in hospital. And yes, it would work well if people let families know, but it is still a difficult thing for both hospital staff and the families to have to discuss at such a terribly sad time.
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