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@Sgt Pepper wrote:
Just for the record friends..
Northern Ireland isn’t actually in Britain. It is part of the UK (that of course being the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland). However, A great deal of Northern Irish natives consider themselves British (which is of course their right and certainly sounds better than UKish).
Like most things Irish, it is rather confusing.Donegal on the other hand is definitely NOT British.
Shame on you Eve :wink:Hey, political boundaries are a record of the last conquest/treaty. Nationality is about the soul of a people and those with whom you share your dreams.
The degree to which it’s all part hokum is demonstrated by the fact you can be part of the United Kingdom, have a whole army fighting to keep you under the flag, but not be officially “in Britain”. On the other hand you can have your own language and history, not be represented in the flag but be “in Britain” and have the heir to the British throne as your prince.
@wordsworth60 wrote:
@Sgt Pepper wrote:
Just for the record friends..
Northern Ireland isn’t actually in Britain. It is part of the UK (that of course being the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland). However, A great deal of Northern Irish natives consider themselves British (which is of course their right and certainly sounds better than UKish).
Like most things Irish, it is rather confusing.Donegal on the other hand is definitely NOT British.
Shame on you Eve :wink:Hey, political boundaries are a record of the last conquest/treaty. Nationality is about the soul of a people and those with whom you share your dreams.
The degree to which it’s all part hokum is demonstrated by the fact you can be part of the United Kingdom, have a whole army fighting to keep you under the flag, but not be officially “in Britain”. On the other hand you can have your own language and history, not be represented in the flag but be “in Britain” and have the heir to the British throne as your prince.
I think it’s fair to say that issues of Nationality are much more complex and broad ranging than that pretty little summation Words..
And significantly so in the case of somewhere like, say, Northern Ireland.However, my post (quoted here from another thread for whatever bizarre reason, although I assume the “Anything you like” gig is a reasonable defence) was posted in good faith and with due respect to the central tenet of the thread itself.. i.e. British locations. Therefore it’s not entirely erroneous to assume that places actually IN BRITAIN should take centre stage.. No?
I do think I put that relatively harmless point across in the above post (from another thread lol), so I still can’t really see the relevance of taking it beyond it’s intended import.
That is, taking it here.But hey ho, it is here now. So, to reiterate..
Donegal – A place in the Republic Of Ireland.
Northern Ireland – A place very much in the UK but not Britain, though inhabited in part by a people with a strong link and loyalty to Britishness.
Agreed, though simply stated this latter point perfectly illustrates the danger of cloudy, wishy washy defintions of Nationality and I’m sure we both agree that such issues can go far deeper than that for some.But, hey, with regard to the A-Z I’m still struggling as to how these deeper points are actually relevant? This was not my intention when originally posting.
Things seem to have been truly taken out of context indeed.In saying that, if a discussion on National boundaries in the main, and/or the deeply complicated curio that is Northern Ireland in particular is on the menu, then I shall welcome such a debate with great interest.
:)
For sgt Pepper. I never said, at any time, that Donegal was english or british. I just said that it was the most beautiful place on Gods earth.
My summation was pretty!
He likes me! He really, really likes me!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
@wordsworth60 wrote:
My summation was pretty!
He likes me! He really, really likes me!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Carefull or he’ll ride ya
@irish_lucy wrote:
@wordsworth60 wrote:
My summation was pretty!
He likes me! He really, really likes me!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Carefull or he’ll ride ya
He’ll need a bloody good whisperer before I’m that tame . . . . .
@eve wrote:
For sgt Pepper. I never said, at any time, that Donegal was english or british. I just said that it was the most beautiful place on Gods earth.
Fair enough eve.
I guess it was wrong of me to assume that you putting “D for Donegal” on a thread titled “A-Z of Britain’s best places” indicated at least one of the above.
Wrong, but not unreasonable I hope?
Either way, my apologies.. And the “shame on you” lark was just a jest I promise you.Gawd what an all round fuss.. Sorry I said anything now lol.
I’ll zip up :-$@wordsworth60 wrote:
@irish_lucy wrote:
@wordsworth60 wrote:
My summation was pretty!
He likes me! He really, really likes me!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Carefull or he’ll ride ya
He’ll need a bloody good whisperer before I’m that tame . . . . .
I just knew I’d regret the whole “pretty” thing :oops:
:lol:
@Sgt Pepper wrote:
@eve wrote:
For sgt Pepper. I never said, at any time, that Donegal was english or british. I just said that it was the most beautiful place on Gods earth.
Fair enough eve.
I guess it was wrong of me to assume that you putting “D for Donegal” on a thread titled “A-Z of Britain’s best places” indicated at least one of the above.
Wrong, but not unreasonable I hope?
Either way, my apologies.. And the “shame on you” lark was just a jest I promise you.Gawd what an all round fuss.. Sorry I said anything now lol.
I’ll zip up :-$:D . soz. :D . Tis just that i nearly got done for assault once when some silly woman at a bus stop said that Belfast was English! ( and your right, i did put it on the wrong post :oops: :)
@chameleon wrote:
@kent f OBE wrote:
I think its a lovely picture…makes me feel all tranquil and reminds me of a lovely break I had in the Lakes
Where would you like me to take you this year Kenty? Other than to heaven and back like last week. 8)
Why does this make me feel nauseous?
I assume it’s meant as a joke but I find the obsession disturbing…
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