So now, lets have a debate about NATO.

‘But, like the UK, we actually fund our responsibilities to NATO, even though it’s a joke’  makes it clear that you’re not exactly a supporter of NATO.

I AM a supporter of NATO and always have been. Of course it comes down to whether one is a pacifist and believe that all humans are peaceful or whether one is a realist and that it takes strength to stand up to the dictators that sadly still rule by fear. The threat of a rogue ruSSian/USSR has always been there since the end of WW2 although the level of the threat has varied. The point is that NATO is an alliance of democracies, well, that was the intention but unfortunately over time, one or two have the members have evolved into more autocratic states but who would want any country to leave NATO the most. pOOtin perhaps?

As to the U.S. involvement, well, your political defence lobby ensures that you spend a shit load of money on weapons and american troops have been stationed in Europe ever since Pearl Harbour the same as many NATO members have their troops in other NATO countries. I believe that over time, some of the NATO members have become somewhat lazy in paying their way but there’s nothing like a local war to wake them up is there puds lad. My my, even Sweden and Finland are racing to get into the club. tRump’s threat to leave NATO would have played right into pOOtin’s plan wouldn’t it. Good job tRump wasn’t around to see that one through. His moaning about other countries spend was just an excuse. tRump wanted out of NATO because pOOtin wanted to destroy NATO. But,  pootin’s war has strengthened the alliance, not weakened it which was a massive pootin miscalculation and for an alliance that has ensured no nuclear armageddon for over 70 years, I think they’ve done rather well.

NATO has never been more relevant than it is now and as I’ve said in here many times before, because of the ever increasing divide between east and west.

Just imagine a mother ruSSia from Vladivostok to Lisbon as their media like to portray.

Then it would be china/ruSSIa against the yooo ess ay.

You’d be dust puds lad,  fucking radioactive dust.

Concentrate on the global picture puds lad, not your puerile partisan politics. If we in little ol’ UK can do that, then i’m sure the USA can as well.

Still think NATO is a joke?

• This reply was modified 2 years, 8 months ago by  cooldandywarhol.

Oh dear, seems like you’re in the minority……again

One other point puds lad, before you go shouting about sizes of nuclear arsenals like many americans are disposed to do.

Do your research on EMP.

I do actually.

You’ve taken this debate into the russia versus america nuclear war domain. EMP first strike followed by the extinction of mankind. End of….so let’s not go there eh.,,,but again, that shows your rather insular view of the world…america first etc etc. You’re a tRumper puds lad, I wouldn’t expect anything less. Are there any tRumpers left…… YES THERE ARE!!!!

You (The US)  probably have nuclear missiles pointing at you from ruSSia, china, north korea, maybe soon to be joined by Iran and God’s knows who else…fuck, even the missiles you sell us wanna go home! But, from what I can make out, you’d rather be alone in that little pickle than have alliances with anyone else to TRY to avoid it….even the Paris Accord fighting climate change I guess. Anyway, let’s get back to the point here puds.

pOOtin is a criminal and a thug, retaining autocratic power through fear and corruption. The ultimate 21st century Stalin….but this time with nukes  His biggest perceived threat is having democracy and possible nuclear weapons get closer to Moscow. NATO and ruSSia are fighting a proxy war costing the lives of tens of thousands of Ukrainians.

The war is good for the US – all those dead ruSSians, busted T72s, ruski economy trashed without a single american MILITARY life lost. It’s good for NATO because subscriptions and membership will go up without spilling again, a drop of NATO blood. All that american weaponry has come in to NATO bases because they’ve practiced that for decades. Even poor little Romania is a conduit and base for NATO forces and equipment. NATO has responded like most pundits ( including  you?) thought they never could. Sure, there are a couple of naughty boys in the room like Turkey and Hungary, but maybe it always takes a challenge to sort out the wheat from the chaff.

NATO is no joke puds lad.  It’s real, it’s happening. It’s treading a global security tightrope but it has a rather busy agenda at the moment.

You can go back to your minoritarian heady heights now puds lad. Don’t let the rarefied atmosphere up there cloud your thinking.