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30 May, 2008 at 5:05 pm #332188
Yes..yes..yes..all very well and good, but antibiotics have saved my life on at least five occasions and are helping to keep me alive in the here and now. I don’t have any effing choice so kindly shut the feck up with your smug pronouncements and herbal goddam remedies! :evil:
30 May, 2008 at 5:11 pm #332189@esmeralda wrote:
Yes..yes..yes..all very well and good, but antibiotics have saved my life on at least five occasions and are helping to keep me alive in the here and now. I don’t have any effing choice so kindly shut the feck up with your smug pronouncements and herbal goddam remedies! :evil:
how you doing now? 8)
30 May, 2008 at 6:17 pm #332190They have saved many lives, my daughter’s too. All I am saying is that if we misuse them, they will not be any use to us in the future. Also, we need to think about alternatives.
Apparently there is a new kind of way of treating viruses and bacteria, using a gel you shove up yer konk. It is in development now and will be another way to keep the nasties at bay.
Not smug pronouncements. A realist being real.
30 May, 2008 at 6:24 pm #332191http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/scientists-on-brink-of-cure-for-superbug-830345.html
these articles always state building a resistance to antibiotics etc thats not how it happens but result is same i guess
30 May, 2008 at 6:35 pm #332192the bacteria do build a resistance to antibiotics. The ones that don’t get wiped out get stronger and resist the effects of the antibiotic. They adapt in other words. Clever wee things bacteria.
30 May, 2008 at 6:41 pm #332193Strictly speaking in any “community” there are resistant organisms already there the antibiotics kill the non resistant bacteria leaving the resistant bacteria with no competition so they multiply and we have to find another antibiotic to which in a community there are resistant bacteria etc etc The resistance is always there it’s not aquirred
30 May, 2008 at 6:58 pm #332194Different antibiotics use different methods to destroy bacteria. Some prevent them multiplying, some mutate the cell structure etc etc. Any bacteria left behind during the “massacre” will become resistent in the future to that kind of antibiotic. Another kind of antibiotic will then be required to get rid using a different technique.
Whichever way you want to split the hair, it still ends up in twain.
30 May, 2008 at 7:02 pm #332195I agree mims just saying the bacteria left behind were already resistant they didnt become resistant
30 May, 2008 at 7:05 pm #332196They were already resistent because they had developed a resistence previously, probably due to “broad spectrum” attack.
We are talking a chicken and egg scenario, because it is highly likely that some bacteria would develop resistence without having been in contact with an antibiotic, but how would anyone now know. You would have to go back to pre-antibiotic/penicillin times to find that out.
31 May, 2008 at 11:21 am #332197Not smug pronouncements. A realist being real.[/quote]
Having been necking ’em down at the Last Chance Saloon for quite some time, and well aware that my options are finite, the ponderings of a realist -ad nauseum – I don’t need. Seriously. I mean – three pages to make a point? Give it a rest!
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