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3 September, 2007 at 10:44 pm #284571
Im sure they will survive this because they are surrounded by good people.
The people either sheilding or who know who the killer is probably have no faith in the justice system to protect them from the fall out of “grassing”.
Have to say I wouldnt either. having got involved in being a witness recently to a crime you wonder sometimes if it is worth it.
Of course Im not talking murder here, I would have no hesitation in assisting the police, but stupid anti social crime. What they do back to you is what is scary.
And where are the police when you are in your bed at 3am scared shitless of the gang outside your house? :shock: No point phoning them when it takes over an hour for them to get there, and you dont have enough evidence as to who they were so they cant do anything anyway. But you DO know who they are, but not according to the police you dont.
7 September, 2007 at 5:37 pm #2845727 September, 2007 at 5:43 pm #284573Poor mum. Something she no way should have to be be doing, bless her heart.
8 September, 2007 at 9:13 am #284574The real tragedy arising from all this is that NOBODY has come forward to name the shooter.
His identity absolutely has to be known by a substantial number of people and yet they refuse to come forward and do their civic duty by seeing that he is brought to justice.
The community that is shielding him and indeed the people of Liverpool ought to be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.
Attending a murdered little boy’s funeral and publicly weeping and wailing for his parent’s loss is the ultimate act of hypocrisy, when (as a community) they are prepared to shield his killer).
8 September, 2007 at 11:34 am #284575@forumhostpb wrote:
The real tragedy arising from all this is that NOBODY has come forward to name the shooter.
His identity absolutely has to be known by a substantial number of people and yet they refuse to come forward and do their civic duty by seeing that he is brought to justice.
The community that is shielding him and indeed the people of Liverpool ought to be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.
Attending a murdered little boy’s funeral and publicly weeping and wailing for his parent’s loss is the ultimate act of hypocrisy, when (as a community) they are prepared to shield his killer).
I dont think its as much a shameful thing as it is yet another sign of the much ignored erosion of british society
Its about gangs at the heart, we, people are pack animals instinctually, and that exhibits itself in things like societies, communities, various identities such as national and racial ones as well as with pride for the groupings we are part of
So years ago the biggest “gang” in the county was the righteous, so people supported by weight of numbers and a never ending stream of people to watch their back were more inclined to “do the right thing”
Since then society has crumbled, the groupings now are much smaller and without much interlinking and many, perhaps even most people now certainly in the white british community live pretty isolated secular lives meaning that when faced with adversity they are pretty much standing “alone” in the true sense of the word
This in turn increases the power and intimidation of what would have been smaller “groups” by them now proportionally being far bigger like gangs of thugs or yobs, cancerously expanding non indigenous communities and pretty much any group that has some form of strong common connection and unifed aim or direction which then stregnthens the isolationist trend of the majoritive community
There might be 100,000 people in that area who WOULD under other circumstances give the lads name over, but as that would in most cases mean possible reprisals, and as they would face those reprisals alone with it not being KNOWN anyone would support or help them, but would more likely hide away in their own homes so THEY didnt also face reprisals the drive to do anything at all is lessened to the point of non existance
Combine that with the very real fact that kids now are responsible for a ridiculously high amount of deliberate killings by beatings, knives and guns and the fact the police even if called could take days to arrive on the scene due to resource limitations and you dont have a very good climate for people to “do the right thing”
THats not shameful, its not in many cases something that could even be called cowardice, infact realistically when the current state of play in this country is fully taken into account rather than the governmental picture they would like us to believe its actually common sense to do nothing because as seen recently, even something as innocuous as telling kids to stop jumping on a car can cost you your life and only a complete fool would, without some form of backup take action when that action could have mortal repurcussions
Any shame isnt really for the people of that area to shoulder, its actually for the entire country to shoulder because by gradual and repeated support for the softening of the back bones of our society via legislation, the adoption and repeated application of the human rights act, the unrestricted left wing applications of the social services department, CPS (criminals protection services lol) and the courts themselves as well as the undermining of authority and discipline within the police force, schools and the home everyone who has allowed that to happen is responsible and should be ashamed, not simply the people now having to consider and act when that “utopia” is in effect
Because we are all guilty of creating it, even wanting it and encouraging it, its just a cop out to then turn round and blame or criticise people trying to live and remain alive within it
8 September, 2007 at 12:55 pm #284576@forumhostpb wrote:
The real tragedy arising from all this is that NOBODY has come forward to name the shooter.
His identity absolutely has to be known by a substantial number of people and yet they refuse to come forward and do their civic duty by seeing that he is brought to justice.
The community that is shielding him and indeed the people of Liverpool ought to be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.
Attending a murdered little boy’s funeral and publicly weeping and wailing for his parent’s loss is the ultimate act of hypocrisy, when (as a community) they are prepared to shield his killer).
im with you here PB…. it is the community whom are proctecting this lads killer… and they also should be charged with preventing Justice….
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